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We barely know a Christian by a cigarette habit broken----Matthew 7:21-24.
The world breaks cigarette habits and buys products to defeat the addiction---Matthew 7:21-24.
We barely know a Christian by a LOVING BOB------Matthew 7:21-24.
The world loves all kinds of people----1 John 2:15.
We barely know a Christian by a NONJUDGMENTAL PERSON-----Matthew 7:21-24.
The world lets their children do what they want and doesn't correct them----James 5:20.
We barely know a Christian by an OPTIMISTIC PERSON-----Matthew 7:21-24.
The world names and claims everything they want----1 Timothy 6 and Luke 3:14.
We barely know a Christian by a COURAGEOUS PERSON-----Matthew 7:21-24.
The world has incredible people with courage-----Romans 12:3.
We barely know a Christian by a BLOOD BOASTER----Matthew 7:21-24.
The world gets heavy into grace and cross preaching----Romans 6:1.
We barely know a Christian by a PEACEMAKER---Matthew 7:21-24.
The world is self wise about God's plan with peace----Matthew 10:34-37 and Luke 6:26.
We barely know a Christian by CHURCH ATTENDANCE----Matthew 7:21-24.
The world is self wise that all segregation is evil-----2 Corinthians 6:14-17 and Amos 3:3.
We barely know a Christian by their CONFESSION OF FAITH---Matthew 7:21-24.
The world is self wise they you can have 50 faiths to select to be a Christian---Ephesians 4:5.
We barely know a Christian by tongue talking utterance---Matthew 7:21-24.
The world is self wise that tongue rules interfere with people being a Christian---ALL of 1 Cor. 14.
Jesus never said water baptism is for some Christians only----John 3:5.
Jesus never said the Sabbath is for Jewish people only---Hebrews 4.
Jesus never said modest attire is for Pharisee type people only---1 Peter 3:3.
Jesus never said modest living is for Pharisee type people only---1 Timothy 6.
Jesus never said Godhead rules are for heresy followers only----John 8:24.
Jesus never said women church rules are for heresy followers only---1 Cor. 14:34-35.
Jesus never said holy marriage is for some Christians only---Romans 7:2-3.
Jesus never said it's a sin for man to correct man----James 5:20.
Jesus never said the character of God is in the 10 commandments only---Matthew 5:17-20.
Jesus never said the revelation of the bible is through another book by man---1 John 2:27.
Jesus never said a man can outwit God and edit the bible for him---Rev. 22:18-19.
Jesus never said a man can marry any widow woman he want----1 Timothy 5:9.
Jesus never said the wisdom of man could teach Christianity 101----Isaiah 64:6 and Jeremiah 10:23.
Jesus never had people guessing if all the bible is by him or not---2 Timothy 3:16.
Jesus never had people guessing if all the bible is intrepreted by him only or not---2 Peter 1:20-21.
Jesus never needed the wisdom of man to be God----1 Cor. 1:25.
Walking on the water is not the wisdom of man.
Feeding multitudes with a few fish and few loaves of bread is not the wisdom of man.
Putting a blind person in a filthy pool of water to see is not the wisdom of man.
Marching 7 times around the walls of Jericho to scare away enemies is not the wisdom of man.
Being on a cross and coming back alive is not the wisdom of man.
Laying hands on people and casting out demons in the name of Jesus is not the wisdom of man.
The virgin birth of Mary is not the wisdom of man.
Going from slavery to being the governor of Egypt is not the wisdom of man.
Being the greatest teacher mocked as unlearned is not the wisdom of man.
Being a king forever is not the wisdom of man.
Taking away death is not the wisdom of man.
Having a new heaven and new earth is not the wisdom of man.
If he can do this he can have water baptism.
If he can do this he can have the Sabbath.
If he can do this he can have modest attire.
If he can do this he can have holy marriage.
If he can do this he can have tongue rules.
If he can do this he can have all the bible he inspired.
If he can do this he can despise the wisdom of man to be a believer.
Just here attracting 100% bible believers together ONLY---Psalms 133:1 and 2 Cor. 6 and Amos 3:3.
If you call Christians bible thumpers then get another book like the Quran and stop saying your a
Christian.
Stop coming here if any of the bible offends you----2 Cor. 6 and 2 Timothy 3:16.
Click with SELF WISE EXPERTS going to hell----Matthew 15:14 and Isaiah 64:6 and Jeremiah 10:23.
How can you continue in God and not believe all the bible----John 8:31 ?
How can you live by every word of God and not believe all the bible---Matthew 4:4 ?
How can you be throughly furnished unto good works and not believe all the bible---2 Timothy 3:16 ?
How can you search out the scriptures and not believe all the bible---John 5:39 ?
How can you be self wise and have salvation all figured out---Isaiah 64:6 and Jeremiah 10:23 ?
How can you listen to opinions and be born again---John 3:5 ?
What can man tell you without God talking--1 John 2:27 ?
Who is man talking if God not talking---2 Peter 1:20-21 ?
What can man tell you on his own that's worth 2 cents in value---Psalms 8:4 and Isaiah 64:6 ?
Last edited by tonytonytony; 04-06-2013 at 09:25 AM..
Tony3, all of those Bible passages were written by people just like you. No better, no worse. They are just expressing their ideas, which may or may not be correct.
If you believe that Jesus is divine, then I think you can let him alone guide you through life.
The Bible has some good stuff in it, but I would not take it too seriously.
I'm sorry but can you explain to me how any of the above gives you the character of Jesus Christ ?. You cannot hold onto any of the beliefs you keep posting without sitting in judgement or condemation of another. Try seeing beyond a believer that is not baptized, that doesn't dress how you think is becoming, that doesn't go to church on the day you believe is the sabbath and all the rest of the creed you have set up. Remember God does not look upon outward appearance, which includes how often you read the bible and how often you claim to 100% believe it.
I would say that the Bible probably fails miserably to capture the true character of Jesus. I see no admirable character in any of the throngs of Bible believing and Bible following Christians I have met, treated and encountered, not to mention associated with when I was younger. I think the living example of the Bible movement today speaks volumes to the overall failure of the bible based movement. A bad example, embodied by the ignorance and social failure of of the evangelical/conservative movement, is the best testimony to the absence of the "true character of Jesus."
There is a concept that exist in a few select circles. It is not prevalent or accepted by many of the Bible based religions, because with it, a person would not need the Bible or the religious social club surrounding it. That concept is called the "Christ consciousness" It parallels very closely, but not exactly the concept of "enlightenment" in Buddhism and "Self Actualization" in psychology. it exists when the person reaches the apex of human and spiritual thought. If the true character of Jesus is present, then it would have to be as embodied in the concept of the "Christ consciousness."
As I mentioned, it does not seem to exist in Biblian circles. Which is why a plethora of Humanists like myself opt for a life bigger and better than that of the bible followers. We look at those who follow a poor example and know better than to let our fear and insecurities channel us into it. We make the bold and healthy decision to say "No, Thank You" and walk away.
We make the bold and healthy decision to say "No, Thank You" and walk away.
Well, it's true that the character of Jesus is not found in the doctrines and dogmas different people have derived from their reading and their perceptions, however it may be shown in individual believers and even groups that are doing good work in helping the helpless, etc.
I hope when you choose to walk "away" you also choose to walk "toward" some kinds of associations that do the same.
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