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Old 06-02-2009, 03:30 PM
 
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To the lost ?

Acts 15 says
19"It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God.

20Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21For Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath."
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Old 06-02-2009, 03:38 PM
 
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To the lost ?

Acts 15 says
19"It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God.

20Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21For Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath."
What exactly is being misinterpreted?
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Old 06-02-2009, 03:44 PM
 
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What exactly is being misinterpreted?
From the Gospel to the lost - to being set free from the Law - to the reconciliation of all things
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Old 06-02-2009, 03:46 PM
 
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The religious system never changes it's spots

Matthew 23

Seven Woes

1Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2"The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. 3So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.

5"Everything they do is done for men to see: They make their phylacteries[a] wide and the tassels on their garments long; 6they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; 7they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them 'Rabbi.'
8"But you are not to be called 'Rabbi,' for you have only one Master and you are all brothers. 9And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. 10Nor are you to be called 'teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Christ.[b] 11The greatest among you will be your servant. 12For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
13"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.[c]
15"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are.
16"Woe to you, blind guides! You say, 'If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.' 17You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? 18You also say, 'If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gift on it, he is bound by his oath.' 19You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20Therefore, he who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21And he who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. 22And he who swears by heaven swears by God's throne and by the one who sits on it.
23"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
25"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.
27"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean. 28In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
29"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30And you say, 'If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.' 31So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!
33"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation. 37"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing. 38Look, your house is left to you desolate. 39For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, 'Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.'[d]"
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Old 06-02-2009, 03:49 PM
 
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Verses 1-12 kind of indicts the Pope, huh?
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Old 06-02-2009, 03:50 PM
 
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From the Gospel to the lost - to being set free from the Law - to the reconciliation of all things
The Law is not for salvation, the Law was misused by the Pharisees. The law was always meant to be a mirror, measuring stick. The Law shows how holy and righteous God is because the Law is His standard of righteousness and how wretched we are and could never hold up to His standard, the Law demonstrates to us we need a savior. Jesus dieing for us delivered us from the Law and gave the Law its true meaning by putting it in its proper perspective

The Law is needed because you nor I would not know what sin is if not for the Law?

(Romans 7
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1Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
2For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
3So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
4Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
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Old 06-02-2009, 06:12 PM
 
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The Law is not for salvation, the Law was misused by the Pharisees. The law was always meant to be a mirror, measuring stick. The Law shows how holy and righteous God is because the Law is His standard of righteousness and how wretched we are and could never hold up to His standard, the Law demonstrates to us we need a savior. Jesus dieing for us delivered us from the Law and gave the Law its true meaning by putting it in its proper perspective

The Law is needed because you nor I would not know what sin is if not for the Law?

(Romans 7)
1Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
2For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
3So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
4Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Fundy

1)The gospel of the Church is contradictory

Hypocrisy

2) The imposed law/doctrine of the Church derived from the mistranslation of the word and then misinterpreted to suite their doctrine .

3 The fact you advocates of ET want all the lost who do not believe the church gospel to burn in hell , because God would not be just in your opinion to not send there .
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Old 06-02-2009, 06:15 PM
 
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closest thing we got to the light, you look at the darkness and the light and make a move in the right direction, its definitely not snoop dog.
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Old 06-03-2009, 09:29 PM
 
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closest thing we got to the light, you look at the darkness and the light and make a move in the right direction, its definitely not snoop dog.
strike a match?
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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Fundy

1)The gospel of the Church is contradictory

Hypocrisy

2) The imposed law/doctrine of the Church derived from the mistranslation of the word and then misinterpreted to suite their doctrine .

3 The fact you advocates of ET want all the lost who do not believe the church gospel to burn in hell , because God would not be just in your opinion to not send there .
I'm sorry to jump in here, but I wanted to know what ET is?
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