Be free from carnal thinking part 1 (Gospel, church, believers, Jesus)
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The 'world' is not religion, but religion is included in it'
He keeps calling it religion, but yet,,what is he and they?
It looks like a church format, with a leader speaking.
It looks like he is in the front, although sitting down.
It looks like he is the one teaching, special truths, given to him by God, when he sat still and quiet.
If it quacks, has a bill, and webbed feet,,,it must be a duck.
He says going to church and hearing about the wrath of God, and the fear of God. 3:46 But yet earlier he said you are right where you need to be at this very moment. Does he not think it is possible that when learning of the milk of the gospel, you must be told certain Truths concernig the milk, before heading into the meat? Where does anyone get off telling people that the mainstream is wrong, because God led him to where he is "right at this moment"?
Think anyone would understand his 'truths' now, having never tasted of the milk of the word? This anyone, including him, has been brought into glory, so that the Truth has been manifested in their lives? Then they arre not done learning, and although he sits in that chair today, a certain revealing, or Spirit led Truth could be given to him, that causes him to exit that chair and realize what he was teaching, actually goes agains the Word, as it was Spiritually given and not carnally read.
So, although it is good that he is at where he is supposed to be, I definately disagree with him on the carnality side of his teaching, of course as well as the UR aspect of it.
The 'world' is not religion, but religion is included in it'
He keeps calling it religion, but yet,,what is he and they?
It looks like a church format, with a leader speaking.
It looks like he is in the front, although sitting down.
It looks like he is the one teaching, special truths, given to him by God, when he sat still and quiet.
If it quacks, has a bill, and webbed feet,,,it must be a duck.
He says going to church and hearing about the wrath of God, and the fear of God. 3:46 But yet earlier he said you are right where you need to be at this very moment. Does he not think it is possible that when learning of the milk of the gospel, you must be told certain Truths concernig the milk, before heading into the meat? Where does anyone get off telling people that the mainstream is wrong, because God led him to where he is "right at this moment"?
Think anyone would understand his 'truths' now, having never tasted of the milk of the word? This anyone, including him, has been brought into glory, so that the Truth has been manifested in their lives? Then they arre not done learning, and although he sits in that chair today, a certain revealing, or Spirit led Truth could be given to him, that causes him to exit that chair and realize what he was teaching, actually goes agains the Word, as it was Spiritually given and not carnally read.
So, although it is good that he is at where he is supposed to be, I definately disagree with him on the carnality side of his teaching, of course as well as the UR aspect of it.
I can understand what Gary is saying (I've met Gary, as well as Larry and Betty Hodges, among others), but it's like he said - this is a process of understanding that just letting go (and letting God) has to be worked in us - with a foundation of understanding God's holiness and sovereign plan for us.
The best way I can describe it is that fundamental Christianity limits God as to His plan, ability and overall rule over His creation, and our liberty to be totally removed from the bondage of the flesh...
...which we don't understand as being flesh. How we think, see, judge, etc, is all predicated in the wrong tree. We have to understand that Life and the knowledge of good and evil are a total paradigm shift (and a world) apart.
I can understand what Gary is saying (I've met Gary, as well as Larry and Betty Hodges, among others), but it's like he said - this is a process of understanding that just letting go (and letting God) has to be worked in us - with a foundation of understanding God's holiness and sovereign plan for us.
The best way I can describe it is that fundamental Christianity limits God as to His plan, ability and overall rule over His creation, and our liberty to be totally removed from the bondage of the flesh...
...which we don't understand as being flesh. How we think, see, judge, etc, is all predicated in the wrong tree. We have to understand that Life and the knowledge of good and evil are a total paradigm shift (and a world) apart.
See, now that I would agree with. It is such a shame that UR has to come into the teaching though, because a little leaven ruins ALL. If you drink a glass of water that is 99% water and 1% poison, then the entire glass is poison.
See, now that I would agree with. It is such a shame that UR has to come into the teaching though, because a little leaven ruins ALL. If you drink a glass of water that is 99% water and 1% poison, then the entire glass is poison.
Hotinaz ,Little Elmer is saying exactly what Gary Sigler is saying.
Hotinaz ,Little Elmer is saying exactly what Gary Sigler is saying.
Read Little Elmers post again. He does not mention UR, does he? Then he is not saying what Gary is saying, in that post. I understand the trees, and what they actually are. It is why I understood what he was saying, and I agreed with it. But Gary has to throw UR in the mix, and then, since he doesn't even know, as NO ONE does, it ruins it.
Why can't Christians just focus on the now, and let the Judge do the Judging, on that day.
ET doesn't sound like a loving God, to me, but who am I?
UR doesn't sound like a just God, to me, but who am I?
AN doesn't sound like a forgiving creative God, to me, but who am I?
I really don't proclaim to have any answers for the afterlife, outside of what is going to happen to the overcoming believers. Outside of this, it is up to Him. Shoot, if I was the judge of all of humanity, I would give them another chance, and let them know for certain at ALL times, and ALL generations, that I exist, am here, and am never leaving.
So, in this sense, UR sounds appealing. The problem comes from the religious folks, who proclaim to be speaking on behalf of the Spirit, which puts them at odd, directly, with the Father, if what they speak is a lie.
Then, UR falls apart, because that is what Jesus implied. There is no forgiveness for this. Why? Because they took the worng seat, that they were never meant to take, nor was it offered.
So, who knows. I sure don't, nor proclaim to. I just know that people who drink the kool-aids following another man's teachings, have the ability to fall into a trap. Are they trapped? How would they even know, until they "come out of her, my people".
I know what LE believes, as I can read for myself. I can also ackowledge a truthful post, when I feel led to comment on it. Right?
So do you agree i never mentioned UR ?
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