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21Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
Matt 20:
Is it not lawful for me to do what I willwith mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?
What the God Hating world rejects most, is that God has a right to do whatever He wants with His creatures..
If God wants to make some creatures for the purpose of daming them for their sins, then He has that right..that power..
If God wants to make some creatures for the purpose of showing them mercy for their sins, then thats His perogative..to question this is High mutiny against thy Creator..
Is thine eye evil because I am good ?
Lets say for instance, there are 10 prisoners on death roll, and they will be excuted for their crimes next week..
two days before the scheduled execution, the word is, the Judge, one with the regal and legal authority to do so, orders that 5 of the prisoners be pardoned and released from the prison and set free..
The reason for the pardon of the 5 was merely an act of grace on behalf of the the Judge..
Now, because He didnt pardon all ten of the criminals, is He evil ? Has he done the others that will be excuted for their crimes wrong ? Is He not good towards the 5 He freely pardoned and set free ?
God has the power, the liberty to do as He pleases and is not answerable to no one...
man has no right to question God as to why God made him the way He did..listen:
20Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
Thats rebellion against God..Its ansewring Him back..its contradicting Him, its striving against Him..
isa 45:
Woeunto him that striveth with hisMaker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?
All I can say to you that reject God in this here revelation of Himself, Woe unto you..
All I can say to you that reject God in this here revelation of Himself, Woe unto you..
All I can say to you who accept this despotic, capricious, hateful God is . . . check that you have not been deceived by the Deceiver of all deceivers . . . for that is who you describe . . . NOT my God as revealed by Jesus.
God has the power, the liberty to do as He pleases and is not answerable to no one...
thats true, and God's pleasure is that all man will be saved (1Tim. 2:4, Romans 11:32) for God has no pleasure in the death of the wicked (Ezekiel 18:32) and does not want that anybody perishes (2Pet. 3:9).
21Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
Matt 20:
Is it not lawful for me to do what I willwith mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?
What the God Hating world rejects most, is that God has a right to do whatever He wants with His creatures..
If God wants to make some creatures for the purpose of daming them for their sins, then He has that right..that power..
If God wants to make some creatures for the purpose of showing them mercy for their sins, then thats His perogative..to question this is High mutiny against thy Creator..
Is thine eye evil because I am good ?
Lets say for instance, there are 10 prisoners on death roll, and they will be excuted for their crimes next week..
two days before the scheduled execution, the word is, the Judge, one with the regal and legal authority to do so, orders that 5 of the prisoners be pardoned and released from the prison and set free..
The reason for the pardon of the 5 was merely an act of grace on behalf of the the Judge..
Now, because He didnt pardon all ten of the criminals, is He evil ? Has he done the others that will be excuted for their crimes wrong ? Is He not good towards the 5 He freely pardoned and set free ?
God has the power, the liberty to do as He pleases and is not answerable to no one...
man has no right to question God as to why God made him the way He did..listen:
20Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
Thats rebellion against God..Its ansewring Him back..its contradicting Him, its striving against Him..
isa 45:
Woeunto him that striveth with hisMaker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?
All I can say to you that reject God in this here revelation of Himself, Woe unto you..
Beloved 57 open your heart to God's love for you.
You see God is not a God of small measure , he would not pardon 5 and condemn 5 , that is not His nature.
He is the God of ALL and abundance
Matthew chapter 18
When evening came, many who were demon-possessed were brought to him, and he drove out the spirits with a word and healed all the sick.
Infact there is a time when God appears to be short im measure and that is towards the religious mind
Luke Chapter 4
23Jesus said to them, "Surely you will quote this proverb to me: 'Physician, heal yourself! Do here in your hometown what we have heard that you did in Capernaum.' "
24"I tell you the truth," he continued, "no prophet is accepted in his hometown. 25I assure you that there were many widows in Israel in Elijah's time, when the sky was shut for three and a half years and there was a severe famine throughout the land. 26Yet Elijah was not sent to any of them, but to a widow in Zarephath in the region of Sidon. 27And there were many in Israel with leprosy[f] in the time of Elisha the prophet, yet not one of them was cleansed—only Naaman the Syrian." 28All the people in the synagogue were furious when they heard this. 29They got up, drove him out of the town, and took him to the brow of the hill on which the town was built, in order to throw him down the cliff. 30But he walked right through the crowd and went on his way.
rom 9:
Lets say for instance, there are 10 prisoners on death roll, and they will be excuted for their crimes next week..
two days before the scheduled execution, the word is, the Judge, one with the regal and legal authority to do so, orders that 5 of the prisoners be pardoned and released from the prison and set free..
The reason for the pardon of the 5 was merely an act of grace on behalf of the the Judge..
Now, because He didnt pardon all ten of the criminals, is He evil ? Has he done the others that will be excuted for their crimes wrong ? Is He not good towards the 5 He freely pardoned and set free ?
See b57 is setting up a false analogy here. Many Calvinists do this to justify God tormenting people for eternity.
The analogy first fails because no judge can torment a person for eternity. The toughest punishment a judge can hand out is the death penalty, which is far more humane.
But this is the real problem with the analogy: the analogy would be more accurate if the judge had created the 10 prisoners, nurtured them from birth, and set them on the path that would lead them to becoming criminals. And then only pardoned 5 of them.
Sure God has the power to do that if He wants to. No one argues that. The question is: is that the nature of the God described by the bible?
Lets set the false analogy aside. Here is the real issue:
God creates mankind decreeing (foreknowing) them to be sinners, and then punishes some of them eternally for being exactly as He made them. And thats "justice" and "loving"? Hmpf. Not by any standard of justice and love that we know.
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God has the power, the liberty to do as He pleases and is not answerable to no one...
Agreed, God answers to no one and has the power to do as he pleases. And what does He please?
1 Tim 2:3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.
It is you who are striving against your maker, b57.
Oh boy. Here we go again. Another insightful thread by the all knowing, special, wonderful, loved best by god, beloved57! Yay! Your version of god is scary. Not loving. Sick. Demented. Disgusting. Revolting. Repulsive. Inhumane at that.
Oh boy. Here we go again. Another insightful thread by the all knowing, special, wonderful, loved best by god, beloved57! Yay! Your version of god is scary. Not loving. Sick. Demented. Disgusting. Revolting. Repulsive. Inhumane at that.
Go ahead, spit it out..it will make you feel better, but the Truth remains..
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