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Old 07-15-2009, 09:22 AM
 
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Beloved...you assume "you" are one of the elect? And yet you dare inform all others we have no hope in God?

I don't think God would have his elect behave in such a manner. Just because you call yourself an elect...doesn't make it so.
Actually the bible tells us how the elect should behave.

2 Peter 1: 5 For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness;and to goodness, knowledge; 6 and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; 7 and to godliness, brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness, love. 8 For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 But if anyone does not have them, he is nearsighted and blind, and has forgotten that he has been cleansed from his past sins.
10 Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and election sure. For if you do these things, you will never fall, 11 and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.


Col 3:12 Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience.


2 Tim 2:22 Flee the evil desires of youth, and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart.
23 Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels.
24 And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful.
25 Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth,
26 and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.
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Old 07-15-2009, 12:40 PM
 
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Actually the bible tells us how the elect should behave.

2 Peter 1: 5 For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness;and to goodness, knowledge; 6 and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; 7 and to godliness, brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness, love. 8 For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 But if anyone does not have them, he is nearsighted and blind, and has forgotten that he has been cleansed from his past sins.
10 Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and election sure. For if you do these things, you will never fall, 11 and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.


Col 3:12 Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience.


2 Tim 2:22 Flee the evil desires of youth, and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart.
23 Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels.
24 And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful.
25 Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth,
26 and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.


Good post, legoman. God bless.
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Old 07-15-2009, 01:11 PM
 
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Shows us the "otherness" of Christ, doesn't it?

He said "Be ye perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect". The only way I'll ever be perfect is if I have my carnal life burned out of me and He replaces my life with His.

Painful, but simple.
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Old 07-15-2009, 02:52 PM
 
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There is hope for the whole creation b57:

Romans 8:19 The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. 20For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.

Not only is there hope for the whole of created life (the whole creation), the whole of created life "shall be delivered"!
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Old 07-15-2009, 07:19 PM
 
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There is hope for the whole creation b57:

Romans 8:19 The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. 20For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.

There is no hope for the devil and his seed Matt 23:

33Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
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Old 07-15-2009, 07:20 PM
 
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Beloved...you assume "you" are one of the elect? And yet you dare inform all others we have no hope in God?
I am a elect, no assume to it, and whoever is not elect is without hope, damnation for eternity will be their lot..
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Old 07-15-2009, 07:23 PM
 
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Not only is there hope for the whole of created life (the whole creation), the whole of created life "shall be delivered"!
Amen!

Romans 8:21 .. the creature itself [the whole of creation] also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
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Old 07-15-2009, 07:23 PM
 
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I am a elect, no assume to it, and whoever is not elect is without hope, damnation for eternity will be their lot..


Are you sure your not nearsighted and blind?
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Old 07-15-2009, 07:24 PM
 
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I am a elect, no assume to it, and whoever is not elect is without hope, damnation for eternity will be their lot..

Doesn't matter if you're an elect or not.


(Matthew 25:46) And, these, shall go away, into, age-abiding, correction, but, the righteous, into, age-abiding, life.

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Old 07-15-2009, 07:26 PM
 
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There is no hope for the devil and his seed Matt 23:

33Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
First of all, that verse doesn't say there is no hope for them.

Second of all, Romans 8:20-21 says there is hope for the whole creation.

So yet again you are adding your own doctrine to the word of God.
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