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Do I believe God Desires ALL to be saved? YES!
Do I believe God gave His Son to accomplish this? YES!
Do I believe God will be double minded and forgo His Wrath? NO!
Do I believe Jesus died for ALL of mankind? YES!
Do I believe YOU MUST CONFESS YOUR BELIEF? YES!
Do I believe you must FOLLOW Him, His Ways, and His COMMANDS? YES!
Do I believe NOT ALL WILL? YES!
Do I believe that the Truth is available to ALL? YES
Do I believe that men deny the Truth? YES!
Do I believe that this life is your only chance to receive Him? YES!
Universalism doesn't make void God's Wrath. We just understand the meaning of Wrath. We know that Wrath is CORRECTION. The Lord came to make CROOKED PATHS - STRAIGHT!!!
You understanding is the He keeps CROOKED paths CROOKED. That is in error.
Luk 3:5 Every valley shall be filled, and every mountain and hill shall be brought low; and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough ways shall be made smooth;
Universalism doesn't make void God's Wrath. We just understand the meaning of Wrath. We know that Wrath is CORRECTION. The Lord came to make CROOKED PATHS - STRAIGHT!!!
You understanding is the He keeps CROOKED paths CROOKED. That is in error.
Luk 3:5 Every valley shall be filled, and every mountain and hill shall be brought low; and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough ways shall be made smooth;
And you think His Father, who is God Almighty will think highly of you who have made His Son's Sacrifice something to be taken lightly? Who think that no matter what every evil despicable human beast who ever lived is automatically sanctified into His Glory, by reason of it just is? Are you kidding me?
Those who believe in the ultimate victory of Jesus Christ in restoring all to God do not take His sacrifice lightly. We realize that it is only through His sacrifice that we have any hope at all and we realize the far reaching effect of that ultimate sacrifice. Jesus died for every despicable human beast, including us. He is able to deliver every despicable human beast of the slavery to that which makes it despicable.
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If everyone is "eventually saved" then what was truly the purpose in having a Gospel in the first place, in this life? What even was the purpose of man? It all seems a little redundent if He was just making more robot angels without free will,, who just obey just because they exist.
Jesus was sent to be the Savior of the world. Those who believe and accept today have life today. We have a relationship with God and experience the blessings associated with this including the power to live a victorious life today. God is preparing a people today to rule and reign in the age to come with His Son. The far reaching effect is that eventually all will experience the deliverance from sin and death that has infected/plagued the creation. It is the work of God. It is not about being a robot. It is about God opening all eyes in their due time and in eventually reigning in all hearts. God bless.
Those who believe in the ultimate victory of Jesus Christ in restoring all to God do not take His sacrifice lightly. We realize that it is only through His sacrifice that we have any hope at all and we realize the far reaching effect of that ultimate sacrifice.and we realize the far reaching effect of that ultimate sacrifice. Jesus died for every despicable human beast, including us. He is able to deliver every despicable human beast of the slavery to that which makes it despicable.
Now that is a funny statement coming from a universalist..... "We realize that it is only through His sacrifice that we have any hope at all"!!
Why would a universalist be worried that you would be without hope, if it were not for Christs' sacrifice?
According to uny's, Christ sacrifice is reconciling all eventually....so why worry that you don't or won't have hope?
Is there a hidden fear within ones heart....of the truth of what really happens after death and question if one will really enter into eternity!!! Because that statement is statement of some kind of fear of no hope? Total contradiction of what one proclaims and believes.....
And even this statement.... "He is able to deliver every despicable human beast of the slavery to that which makes it despicable." What is God going to do with the sin of the despicable human beast, who is in slavery to everything in opposition of God will? Sin has been here since the beginning of time....where is God going to put it? Got to do something with it!! Because it keeps contaminating His creation.....
Now that is a funny statement coming from a universalist..... "We realize that it is only through His sacrifice that we have any hope at all"!!
Why would a universalist be worried that you would be without hope, if it were not for Christs' sacrifice?
Who is worried, Latte'Chic? The statement was that we have made His Son's sacrifice something to be taken lightly. We don't take it lightly. We realizethat without His Son's sacrifice, none would have any hope. (elpis-expectation)
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According to uny's, Christ sacrifice is reconciling all eventually....so why worry that you don't or won't have hope?
Who is worried?
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Is there a hidden fear within ones heart....of the truth of what really happens after death and question if one will really enter into eternity!!! Because that statement is statement of some kind of fear of no hope? Total contradiction of what one proclaims and believes
That doesn't make sense, sorry. Without the sacrifice of the Son how would any of us have any hope? We would remain in death for all of eternity. God bless.
Who is worried, Latte'Chic? The statement was that we have made His Son's sacrifice something to be taken lightly. We don't take it lightly. We realizethat without His Son's sacrifice, none would have any hope.
Who is worried?
That doesn't make sense, sorry. Without the sacrifice of the Son how would any of us have any hope?, We would remain in death for all of eternity. God bless.
Why does one need hope? Your the one that proclaims there will be no death!! If we are going to be reconciled eventually? Your post doesn't make any sense.....
Why does one need hope? Your the one that proclaims there will be no death!! If we are going to be reconciled eventually? Your post doesn't make any sense.....
Because
And hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us.
A hope that in God's time He will restore His creation back to where it was before the fall of man.
Death exists today. Death is to be abolished by the Son, made of no effect. (1 Cor. 15) Yes we die, but we will one day rise, be made alive because of what Jesus has done. We will be reconciled because of the sacrifce of the Son.
Colossians 1:15-20
15. He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.16. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things have been created through Him and for Him.17. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.18. He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything.19. For it was the Father's good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him,20. and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven.
Why does one need hope? Your the one that proclaims there will be no death!! If we are going to be reconciled eventually? Your post doesn't make any sense.....
I think perhaps it is a misconception that the universalists point of view bypasses Christ when saying all will be reconciled eventually.
Reconciliation does not take place without Christ. The elimination of death does not take place without Christ.
So it is not about anyone feeling or seeing that they need hope, hope inherantly exists because of Christ.
You can't compartmentalize it. Hope exists for everyone at all times whether at any given moment in time they see it or know it or believe it.
Hope existed before Christ was born because it was already established that he would come.
And even this statement.... "He is able to deliver every despicable human beast of the slavery to that which makes it despicable." What is God going to do with the sin of the despicable human beast, who is in slavery to everything in opposition of God will?
Sin has been here since the beginning of time....where is God going to put it? Got to do something with it!! Because it keeps contaminating His creation.....
He will destroy it, Latte'Chic. Jesus came to destroy the works of satan. The prince of this world has been cast out. This is what the Lord said and He said that if He was lifted up, He would draw all men to Himself. Sin will not contaminate the creation forever because God will destroy it. Our God is a consuming fire. God bless.
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Total contradiction of what one proclaims and believes.....
