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Old 09-10-2010, 08:35 AM
 
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Are their any and why should i belive that there are please point them out.
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Old 09-10-2010, 08:46 AM
 
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One is JESUS! The other......is not!
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Old 09-10-2010, 08:50 AM
 
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Are their any and why should i belive that there are please point them out.
This should get you started:

Paul vs. Jesus -- disagreement and contradictions between the Christian founders
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Old 09-10-2010, 09:11 AM
 
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Jesus IS the Son Of God.
Paul was an apostle and was faithful to God by spreading the truth to everyone.



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Old 09-10-2010, 09:24 AM
 
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From Hegel the main stay of the discussion was that Jesus was the thinker that reconciled the trinitarian God to the eternal world past in equality with the future.
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Old 09-10-2010, 10:52 AM
 
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Are their any and why should i belive that there are please point them out.
God is Spirit.
Jesus is the Living Life Giving Spirit. He gives the created human the gift of life through faith in Him. After human death. The Gift Giver of Eternal Life.

Paul is a man created by God. An instrument used by God to bring the good news of Jesus to the Gentiles (Us, non-Jews), that with God there is no favortism between Jew and Gentile, all may recieve the gift of Eternal Life through faith in Jesus Christ. A messenger, teacher and preacher of God.

I pray you recieve the love of God in your heart. In Jesus Name. Amen.
God Bless you Ultralight!
Mercy

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Old 09-10-2010, 10:58 AM
 
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Three ministries: Moses, Jesus, the Church.
Moses came to declare the Law. Jesus came to fulfill the Law. Christ the Anointing in mankind will finish up the revelation, and God will be all in all.

Blessings to all!
brian
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Old 09-10-2010, 12:24 PM
 
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One difference to consider is the audience to whom Paul and Jesus addressed. Paul addressed those of the faith. Christ addressed those of faith and also those of unbelief. The two are dealt with differently.

To those of faith, Jesus said:

Mar 5:34 And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague.

Mar 10:52 And Jesus said unto him, Go thy way; thy faith hath made thee whole. And immediately he received his sight, and followed Jesus in the way.

Now, the unbeliever and those trying to justify themselves before God, they ask:

Luk 18:18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?

This question indicates that they DO NOT believe that it IS what Jesus does, but rather what they do, that brings them eternal life. And here is what Jesus tells the unbelievers who want to save themselves. Jesus proclaims to them the law:

Luk 18:20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.

The unbelievers will always justify themselves before God:

Luk 18:21 And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up.

But Jesus knows them better, and what the law requires of them. So, He tutors them with the law:

Luk 18:22 Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.

This is where the supposed differences are between what Paul and Jesus said. It is within the audience where the difference lies.
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Old 09-10-2010, 12:44 PM
 
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Are their any and why should i belive that there are please point them out.
If you're referring to differences in what they taught, Jesus Christ, who is God, came into the world as a man, and as a man He was born, lived and died during the dispensation of Israel. His teachings to Israel primarily concerned the Kingdom age which is still to come. Had Israel not rejected Him as the Messiah, Jesus would have brought in the Millennial kingdom after going to the Cross. The Cross was the reason Jesus came into the world. Since the Jews did reject Jesus as their Messiah, Israel came under national divine discipline and was as a result soon to be dispersed among the nations of the world. That happened in 70 A. D.

The dispensation of Israel was interrupted by God and put on hold and a new dispensation called the Church began on the day of Pentecost 50 days after Jesus was resurrected. The last seven years which remain to the Age of Israel will resume after the church is raptured into heaven. Those last seven years belonging to Israel are called the Tribulation. At the end of the Tribulation, Jesus will return and usher in His Millennial kingdom.

Paul was appointed by God to be an Apostle to the Gentiles, and along with the other disciples, was given by God the Holy Spirit, the doctrines that pertain to the Church-age.

The Church-age is a different dispensation than the Age of Israel and therefore God administers His plan differently to the church than to Israel. That means there are vast differences in what Jesus and Paul taught, in keeping with God's overall dispensational plan. And when Christ returns at the end of the Tribulation, the kingdom age will be administered differently than our present dispensation.

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Old 09-10-2010, 01:07 PM
 
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And this also

Did Jesus and Paul teach the same thing? | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry
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