Who ran the universe when Jesus was dead? (a video) (women, dogma)
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The Bible knows nothing about Jesus and the Father having the same equal "nature."
In the Beginning was the Word
and the Word was with God
and the Word was God
The Word became flesh...
In speaking of the angels he says,
"He makes his angels winds,
his servants flames of fire.
But about the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever,
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Originally Posted by Eusebius When Jesus died on the cross He fully, completely died. His God had to rouse Him from the dead.
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Originally Posted by alanMolstad
well...lets not forget that Jesus said he would raise HIMSELF from the dead....
That does not mean Jesus brought Himself back to life from death by Himself. It means that after God **roused** Him from the dead that Jesus, after being made alive by God, raised Himself up into an upright position.
Mat 27:63 saying, "Lord, we are reminded that that deceiver said while still living, 'After three days shall I be roused.'"
Act 13:37 yet He Whom God rouses was not acquainted with decay.
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Originally Posted by Eusebius The Bible knows nothing about Jesus and the Father having the same equal "nature."
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Originally Posted by alanMolstad
In the Beginning was the Word
and the Word was with God
and the Word was God
The Word became flesh...
In speaking of the angels he says,
"He makes his angels winds,
his servants flames of fire.
But about the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever,
Like I said, there is nothing in the bible stating Jesus and God have the same equal nature. What you wrote does not prove they do.
"God" is a title meaning subjector or placer. One who subjects and places is god or God. Jesus told the Jews "did I not say ye are Gods"? And this was in reply to them accusing Him of making Himself God. If God makes Jesus God then Jesus cannot be the God that made Him God.
Just like God made Moses God to Pharaoh and Aaron was his prophet. Does this mean that Moses is now part of a Quadrinity? LOL?h
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Originally Posted by Eusebius Also, if God is a separate being from the holy spirit, then Jesus had two fathers for He called Himself the Son of God and was begotten by holy spirit.
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Originally Posted by alanMolstad
The answer is found in the text where the Holy Spirit caused the birth of Jesus under the authority of the father.
All 3 members of the trinity working in union....
Wrong. Jesus was begotten by holy spirit and is also called the Son of God. So if the holy spirit is a separate entity from God then God and the holy spirit got Mary pregnant and Jesus therefore had two fathers.
The holy spirit of God is God and not a "person" of some mythological "trinity."
If the Trinity is supposed to be biblical how come it isn't in the Bible?
The doctrine of the Trinity was invented as a purely political move to keep the Arians out of the church.
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