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Old 11-26-2009, 04:50 AM
 
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Reverend...666
O what a fool you are.
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Old 11-26-2009, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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Reverend...666
O what a fool you are.
No, It's Reverend1111 and material things cannot save you from anything. Sure, Jesus rose from the dead in His real spirit form. He is no longer material and when you learn that the soul is what you should be working on instead of the material part of you, you will understand what I'm saying. Until then, you will be just as blind as the rest. Professing in Jesus, who is not God, cannot save you. Believing He rose from the grave, will not save you. Only the Grace that is Divine Love, God's very essence, will save you from sin. It's the only thing that will. Beliefs and sacrifices will not do it for you.
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Old 11-26-2009, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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The bible apparently makes it very clear.
You can prove any point you wish by simply quoting two or three verses of scripture that support your position and ignoring the ones that don't.
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Old 11-26-2009, 09:54 AM
 
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God's grace is His Divine Love. It's is the only thing that will save you. Confessing that Jesus has risen only confirms that you believe in the spirit world and that you believe we will still live once there. It does nothing for your soul.
I've never confessed with my mouth that Jesus is Lord or anything else. He's my big brother and not my God. Confessing of sins only clears your conscience and it does help you but it doesn't mean you are forgiven. That's something between you and God alone and not some minister professing to do God's work. No one can do the work that is God's alone.
Pray for Divine love because that is the Grace that is our salvation that Jesus proclaimed. It's the only thing that will save you from sin.

1 John 4
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
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Old 11-26-2009, 03:27 PM
 
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You can prove any point you wish by simply quoting two or three verses of scripture that support your position and ignoring the ones that don't.
Well let me quote some more.

How then are we saved? I suggest you read the following scriptures. We are saved:

By God's love for us and our love for Him according to John 3:16, 14:21 and 15:9-10; 1 John 3:16 and 5:2-3; Jude 21 and Romans 5:8.

By faith according to Luke 7:50; Ephesians 2:8 and Hebrews 11:6.

By fear according to Jude 23.

By hope according to Romans 8:24 and Titus 1:2.

By repentance according to Psalm 34:18; Mark 1:14 and 15 and 2 Peter 3:9.

By grace according to Acts 15:11; Ephesians 2:5-8; 1 Corinthians 1:4 and Titus 3:7.

By baptism according to Acts 2:38, and Mark 16:16.

By preaching according to 1 Timothy 4:16 and 1 Corinthians 1:18.

By The Holy Spirit according to Titus 3:5 and 1 Corinthians 12:13.

By the Name of Jesus according to Matthew 1:21; Acts 2:21, 4:12 and 16:31; Philippians 2:9-11 and Revelation 22:4.

By works AS A RESULT OF OUR FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST according to James 1:23-25 and 2:14-24; Titus 1:16 and 3:8 and Romans 2:13.

By Jesus' death, blood, and resurrection according to Romans 5:10; 1 Corinthians 15:20 and Ephesians 1:7.

By keeping the commandments according to Matthew 7:21-23 and 19:17; Luke 10:25-28; John 14:21 and 15: 9-10; 1 Corinthians 7:19; Hebrews 10:16-17; 2 Peter 2:21; 1 John 2:3-6 and 3:22-24, 2 John 5-6 and 9; and Jeremiah 31:33-34.

By endurance according to Matthew 24:13 and Revelation 14:12.

So you can see for yourself that all of these scriptures together will lead you/us to Salvation.
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Old 11-26-2009, 06:09 PM
 
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No, It's Reverend1111 and material things cannot save you from anything. Sure, Jesus rose from the dead in His real spirit form. He is no longer material and when you learn that the soul is what you should be working on instead of the material part of you, you will understand what I'm saying. Until then, you will be just as blind as the rest. Professing in Jesus, who is not God, cannot save you. Believing He rose from the grave, will not save you. Only the Grace that is Divine Love, God's very essence, will save you from sin. It's the only thing that will. Beliefs and sacrifices will not do it for you.
You are quite silly. Hmmm, show me in God's Word where He says the soul is what we should be working on. And I say God's Word because it's His Word that I base my belief. The stuff you are posting is pure nonsense based on...what?
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Old 11-26-2009, 06:44 PM
 
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The bible apparently makes it very clear. Ephesians 2:8 says
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.NKJV

What a wonderful God we serve. We can't work for our Salvation. IT'S SIMPLY A GIFT FROM GOD for all us to receive. HAVE YOU RECEIVED THE GIFT OF SALVATION? If you haven't then all you have to do is just read this verse from Romans 10:9:
That if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. NKJV

Many argue that it takes more than simply reciting Romans 10:9. But Paul, who write under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, has made it quite clear--confess, believe on Jesus, and God, and the Holy Spirit will do the rest. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMEN!!!!!
GOD/CHRIST alone accomplished our eternal salvation by grace alone ; he completely orchestrated the Plan of salvation for mankind, completely put it into motion, and completely handled the requirement . HE alone said 'it was finished' while on the Cross and the Bible declares that it is HIS GRACE (free undeserved gift) that is given unto us. All we can do in return is to accept it to our account PLUS nothing else added. It is imperative to ALLOW Gods grace to totally save us ; even our faith in that is a gift from God which we cant take credit for. Romans 1:16-18 clearly indicates it is ONLY our faith from beginning to end , that saves us . God did it all . If we try to add to the equation to be saved, then we cheapen his grace (FREE gift) .
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Old 11-26-2009, 08:37 PM
 
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GOD/CHRIST alone accomplished our eternal salvation by grace alone ; he completely orchestrated the Plan of salvation for mankind, completely put it into motion, and completely handled the requirement . HE alone said 'it was finished' while on the Cross and the Bible declares that it is HIS GRACE (free undeserved gift) that is given unto us. All we can do in return is to accept it to our account PLUS nothing else added. It is imperative to ALLOW Gods grace to totally save us ; even our faith in that is a gift from God which we cant take credit for. Romans 1:16-18 clearly indicates it is ONLY our faith from beginning to end , that saves us . God did it all . If we try to add to the equation to be saved, then we cheapen his grace (FREE gift) .
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMEN!
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Old 11-27-2009, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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1 John 4
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
Now why would you quote that? I never said Jesus didn't come in the flesh. I said I don't confess that Jesus is God. Big difference. Jesus came to show the world how to become a Christ like He was. The writers of the bible left that out because then they would have people all over the world finding God on their own and the churches wouldn't be able to control them anymore.
God is my God and not Jesus. Jesus is my Big Brother.
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Old 11-27-2009, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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You are quite silly. Hmmm, show me in God's Word where He says the soul is what we should be working on. And I say God's Word because it's His Word that I base my belief. The stuff you are posting is pure nonsense based on...what?
Well if you don't care about your soul, the very thing that God created for you in His likeness, then by all means, keep working on that ego of yours.
I don't read your bible and if you would read it with your spiritual eyes, you will see what I tell you is true. Go study.

I learn from the Celestial Angels that are appointed by God to do the work of uplifting this planet. Jesus is one of them.
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