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Old 02-09-2017, 08:24 AM
 
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“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord’, shall enter the kingdom of heaven,
but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day,
‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name,
and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them,
‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
… But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them,
will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand:
and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and
beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall.” (Matthew 7:21-27, NKJV)

http://www.baptistboard.com/threads/...edient.103504/


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Old 02-09-2017, 08:36 AM
 
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such harsh words! but of truth and his Truth sets us free and freedom from sin is his Love .
not a freedom in sin. your right .
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Old 02-09-2017, 09:42 AM
 
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If one is not obedient, then love is their problem.
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Old 02-09-2017, 11:58 AM
 
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Can someone who is bible believer define what obedience is and how can we recognize someone who is obedient. Thanks in advance.
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Old 02-09-2017, 12:17 PM
 
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If one is not obedient, then love is their problem.
So love prevents us from being obedient?
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Old 02-09-2017, 12:53 PM
 
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If one is not obedient, then love is their problem.
Yes, truly, it's all about loving Jesus enough and appreciating what He did for us enough
... to actually make the free-will choice to follow Him and obey His commandments!

However, some really need to overcome the false doctrines, which have deceived them!
If one believes in grace-only and OSAS, he/she has a lesser compulsion to live the life of a disciple.
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Old 02-09-2017, 01:05 PM
 
Location: USA
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Yes, truly, it's all about loving Jesus enough and appreciating what He did for us enough
... to actually make the free-will choice to follow Him and obey His commandments!

However, some really need to overcome the false doctrines, which have deceived them!
If one believes in grace-only and OSAS, he/she has a lesser compulsion to live the life of a disciple.
If you are "loving" and "living the life of a disciple" out of fear of the consequences of not loving/living ... is that really love/life?
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Old 02-09-2017, 01:19 PM
 
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If you are "loving" and "living the life of a disciple" out of fear of the consequences of not loving/living
... is that really love/life?
NOPE, of course not.
I'm speaking of how some people think.
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Old 02-09-2017, 01:27 PM
 
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NOPE, of course not.
I'm speaking of how some people think.
Okay, and we agree that only when people aren't compelled to do anything through fear are they actually experiencing love/life. So "grace-only" or "OSAS" or anything that assures someone that they have nothing to fear has the potential to be good thing (for those who don't think "salvation" is about escaping punishment or God's wrath).
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Old 02-09-2017, 02:56 PM
 
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From what I have come to know is the unrepentant iniquity will block faith , and with out faith Jesus will not hear people without faith , so Jesus says ``I don`t know you worker of lawlessness or iniquity ``..................Where as obedient workers in Christ are the only ones who will be given power to spread the gospel , where disobedient workers will no have the power of Christ and may be on their own ...But gifts of Holy Spirit will still work for people who have fallen out of faith , as Jesus waits for repentants
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