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Old 01-02-2010, 09:43 PM
 
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No God won't do anything if it doesn't give Him the glory...and that challenge wasn't to God it was to evolutionist Christians.
God created this world and everything in it. So everything will bring him glory. Whether we see it in the here and now with our limited minds or not. Whether it makes sense to us or not. So whether he created man in an instant or over time, it will bring him glory.
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Old 01-02-2010, 09:46 PM
 
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God created this world and everything in it. So everything will bring him glory. Whether we see it in the here and now with our limited minds or not. Whether it makes sense to us or not. So whether he created man in an instant or over time, it will bring him glory.
ok.............but that is not what we are talking about. The bible says 6 "yoms"
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Old 01-02-2010, 11:16 PM
 
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Didn't say NT only OT.

Deuteronomy 14:1 is......you are the sons of the Lord your God, as I we all are but that is "sons of the Lord your God" not "sons of god" which are angels fallen or holy.

Why would God decide to bring the flood on the earth (Genesis 6:5-7) when God had never forbade powerful human males or descendants of Seth to marry ordinary human females or descendants of Cain? Only the obscene, perverse marriage of fallen angels with human females would seem to justify such a harsh judgment.

These angels left their domain and God does not like when His creation leaves their domain; beastiality, homosexuality etc........
Fundy,

Fallen angels are NOT the context of the verses, so therefore they cannot be applied. If you do, it is called eisegesis. You have to stay within context.

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I am still waiting for the evolutionist Christians to answer the question about death.
What does the scripture, say death is?
The Law.
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Old 01-03-2010, 10:21 PM
 
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Hence the reason and the cause for this thread to call believers back to the truth in God's words.

12,000 Christian clergy are wrong as they are ignoring the words of Jesus Christ the Lord.

Signs of the times as many are led away from the truth and have gone after the fables of men.
Your Bible is a fable of men, plagiarized off of earlier fables. There is nothing in your holy book that is original or noteworthy. Not even the words and teachings of your Jesus are original material.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:48 AM
 
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How on earth did this thread get so far off topic for such a long time? As I said evolution is fact and is being accepted by more Christians around the world every day...It is only in the US where biblical literalism lives that the majority still favours creationism, but this backwards attitude will surely change.
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Old 01-04-2010, 01:23 PM
 
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A fact? LOL...you mean a theory.
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Old 01-04-2010, 01:27 PM
 
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Ironic, gee there are Christians that stalk the atheist site and post. Whats the problem?
Begone heathen, with your devilish ways!


Wait, why am I here again? Oh yea:

EVOLUTION AND GOD (and yes, even Jesus) CAN EXIST TOGETHER.
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Old 01-04-2010, 02:02 PM
 
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A fact? LOL...you mean a theory.
Yes, a theory, the same way gravity is a theory.
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Old 01-04-2010, 03:13 PM
 
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Why would God decide to bring the flood on the earth (Genesis 6:5-7) when God had never forbade powerful human males or descendants of Seth to marry ordinary human females or descendants of Cain? Only the obscene, perverse marriage of fallen angels with human females would seem to justify such a harsh judgment.
Genesis 8:20And Noah builded an altar unto the LORD; and took of every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar. 21And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done. 22While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

I do not see any reference to fallen angels mingling with mankind as the reason.

Genesis 6: 1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

May the Lord help you to see the truth in His words.

You remember how the Israelites were not to marry outside the nation of Israel? Is that not a clue as to the nephilium being after the days of the Flood as Goliath, a Philistine, was a giant?

May the Lord help you not see the pattern from before when you have all these lineages, from Adam and Eve, but Seth was of the godly lineage from whence Israel is referencing to belonging of in the Bible as God's people. There were other brothers and sisters besides Cain and Seth. So by point of reference to family history of the sons of God from whence the Israelites came from: there were others of Seth's lineage and offshoots from the family tree that mingled among the daughters of men, as in outside the family tree.

That is why we see men as being the offsprings, mighty men as giants or men of renown. It was not about the mingling of angels with mankind or fallen angels, but the lineage of Seth mingling outside their lineage.

The Bible would not call fallen angels the sons of God.

Jesus said that angels are not marrying nor given in marriage thus reproving the false belief that God would join these women to these angels for them to be called wives to them and bear them children, because if they are not given to marriage, then that means God would not join them as one.

The offsprings are men.. not demon spirits as the false book of Enoch states as offsprings between fallen angels and women.

And if you remember the judgment from Genesis 8:21, by the grace of God, may He set you free by this truth as confirmation of that judgment below.

Genesis 6: 5And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. 7And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. 8But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

That was why God flooded the earth: not to thwart some diabolical polluting of the seeds of mankind by the devil and his fallen angels. If the nephilium existed before and after those days of the Flood, then what would be the point of killing all life that breathed air if the real culprits are still running loose?

Therefore as it is written.. God judged the earth because of the wickedness of man being great in the earth and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was evil continually.

Only God can bring forth the children from the womb. The devil can have no part in sharing that glory that is His alone.

Psalm 124: 3Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.
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Old 01-04-2010, 08:18 PM
 
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Yes, a theory, the same way gravity is a theory.
No, you are wrong. Gravity is a fact, but you also have faith that gravity is there, because you see its effect, but you can't see it; just is the case with God, He is there, and Christians know this from first hand experience. That Parousia is in all of us that believe in Him.
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