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Old 01-31-2010, 07:10 AM
 
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Does anyone really believe that God can so care about the sparrow so much to the extent that not one will fall to the ground without his knowledge and yet create a place of eternal torment for man who he created in his own image ?

Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.

Oh that God would open our eyes to see how valuable we his creation are to him.

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Old 01-31-2010, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, BC
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In the time of Jesus, the religious establishment tried to invalidate his message of God's all-encompassing love and mercy, but the spiritual truths he taught escaped their control. This is still happening today.

The religious establishment tries to counteract the growing understanding of God's concern for all His creatures. Preachers preach the message of man's right to his dark command of the earth and theologians develop theories to maintain it. But even as they do this, Christ's revelation of the unlimited nature of Divine love brings hope to those who are discouraged or feel undeserving.

Above the sound and the fury of those who demand belief in a God whose concern is limited to certain groups, or religions, or species, comes the sound of voices raised in gratitude for Christ's revelation of a God whose love is unlimited.

God will take care of us. God’s eye is on the sparrow. God’s eye is on you with tenderness. God’s heartbeat is love. You are cherished, valued, loved beyond understanding just as you are.
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:47 AM
 
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Does anyone really believe that God can so care about the sparrow so much to the extent that not one will fall to the ground without his knowledge and yet create a place of eternal torment for man who he created in his own image ?

Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.

Oh that God would open our eyes to see how valuable we his creation are to him.

and there's the rub
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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and there's the rub
What does that mean?
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:56 PM
 
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We are all given a choice in this lifetime to accept his gift of eternal life or death in the Lake of Fire. God in all his mercy and wisdom has made us mortal so those who refused to accept his way of life will be able to die a second death (after the resurrection) and not suffer the eternal torment faced by the immortal fallen angels.
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Old 01-31-2010, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville,Florida
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Does anyone really believe that God can so care about the sparrow so much to the extent that not one will fall to the ground without his knowledge and yet create a place of eternal torment for man who he created in his own image ?

Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.

Oh that God would open our eyes to see how valuable we his creation are to him.
You could also ask,does man care more for the sparrow or creation than he does God ?

Think about it.
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Old 01-31-2010, 02:38 PM
 
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You could also ask,does man care more for the sparrow or creation than he does God ?

Think about it.
He probably does in most cases but , yet we didn't create God , he created us and it's God that tells us we are of great value and of greater value of the sparrow which he obviously cares much for .

Infact He loved us at our worst, (that's how valuable we are to him) , and our worst is certainly not loving a sparrow more than the creator.

Do you really believe that God created such a dreadful place of eternal torment for his creation that he created in his own image and yet be so tender in his thoughts towards the sparrow ?

This ghastly dreadful place was born out of the heart of man .
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Old 01-31-2010, 02:51 PM
 
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He probably does in most cases but , yet we didn't create God , he created us and it's God that tells us we are of great value and of greater value of the sparrow which he obviously cares much for .

Infact He loved us at our worst, (that's how valuable we are to him) , and our worst is certainly not loving a sparrow more than the creator.

Do you really believe that God created such a dreadful place of eternal torment for his creation that he created in his own image and yet be so tender in his thoughts towards the sparrow ?

This ghastly dreadful place was born out of the heart of man .
Just because you won't believe it, doesn't make it any less true! If He said it is so, then it is so! That should be good enough for you......just because HE SAID SO..........



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Old 01-31-2010, 03:04 PM
 
Location: New England
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Just because you won't believe it, doesn't make it any less true! If He said it is so, then it is so! That should be good enough for you......just because HE SAID SO..........
Won't believe it ?? , i blindly believed it for a number of years and just because you see it through your pre conceived interpretation of the scripture does not make it to true.
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Old 01-31-2010, 03:07 PM
 
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Are you talking about the song? ; Eye on the Sparrow; there is no where in the Word of God that says God care more for the Sparrow than those set for eternal life..... God has no use for those who are set to do evil, and it pains God just as much as any civil libertarianism person would thinks to send any person to the pit...... but eternal life has rules and if people reject those rules they can not live forever, because there is no purpose in keeping they around because hell is for the devil, and people dumb enough to join them than that is where they will be....Devil has been destoying God creation for to long, that God has stopped creating new animals. until the age of the gentiles has come to an end then Judgement day will come and the devil time will run out and any people who joins him time will also run out..... Before the flood of Noahs ark the devils hords had sex with the women of the earth and these spirits are in the pit today and will all be judged at judgement day for Jesus has come to the earth to rule and the devils kingdom will be ended.,.... And there the rub ...means rub your eyes for God said he will rub the tears out of our eyes when we see all those beings lost in the lake of fire at Judgment day..... Find The Lord God because he has a plan for your life and it is not in the pit. .... Some false religions believe that God wants many people to die in the pit and many to live forever with him ,but that is wrong, He want all people to be with him in Heaven forever more. Know God though Jesus
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