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They believe that Christ exists. What does a Christian do?
Believing that He exist is not believing in Him. Christians basically empty themselve out and allow Christ to take over, this is a work in progress for all and each is at a different level of growth than others and all grow at a different pace.
I believe the Bible is the Word of God as given to us by God Himself thru men of God as they were guided by the Holy Spirit and as lived by Jesus Christ, who is the word made flesh.
What you see as carnal attribute of God are only your lack of understnading of Gods true nature as related in a manner that man can understand with his limited understanding.
Galatians 3:23
But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
1 Corinthians 2:16
For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.
2 Corinthians 3:14
But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
2 Corinthians 3: 2-6 (King James Version)
2Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
3Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
4And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:
5Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
6Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
Rom 7:6
But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
Galatian 5:14
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself
For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant. The OT was necessary to establish the expectation of Jesus and predict the way His life and death would occur and the impact He would have for millennia. Jesus fulfilled all the expectations of His day and for every day since for 2000+ years. That is what fulfilling the OT means and that is what validates Chritianity.
The veil of ignorance that blinded our ancestors to God's TRUE NATURE from the misinterpretations of the OT was lifted by Jesus and His example and teaching. That schoolmaster has no further role in understanding God . . . only righteousness and providing hope . . . Jesus is the TRUE NATURE of God . . . not the heinous misunderstandings of the OT. The prophesies being fulfilled for 2000+ years despite the errors in the OT are sufficient validation, Robin. You are deceived. Only the Devil wins when fear is retained because it eliminates love . . . and God IS love.
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I can see where something seems carnal to you. You seem to understand things only in the carnal when they have nothing to do with the carnal. It is like confusing sex with love or lust with faith.
Look in the mirror, Robin . . . you are projecting.
Ah there you go, misinterpritations still exist for those who haven't accepted His gift. Abraham understood, so did Moses and David, yet the Pharasees missed what Christ clearly revealed. Now I know the Pharasees were stuck in legalism but that wasn't their only problem. What you clearly miss is the context of the NT which explains the OT.
Bald assertion . . . not explanation! The term "New Testament" seems to date to Tertullian in the second century or Lactantius in the third. Lactantius:
"But all Scripture is divided into two Testaments. That which preceded the advent and passion of Christ—that is, the law and the prophets—is called the Old; but those things which were written after His resurrection are named the New Testament."
You and all your biblical literalist friends retain the OT . . . NOT as validation and explanation of Jesus and His importance . . . but as ignorant primitive explanations of God. This is the major deception the Devil wreaked on our ancestors who were supposed to use the OT to validate what Christ represented as of God . . . but NOT as accurate understanding of God. THAT understanding is attained from the "mind of Christ" . . . NOT the OT.
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Yes Yes, I must be deceaved by the fear of Gods, again your interpritation is carnal while it was meant spiritual. The fear of God is not being scared of God it is reverance of God show God His own Love.
Bunk . . . it is psychologically impossible to truly love that which you fear . . . no matter HOW you rationalize it.
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The mirror will be useless to you until you remove the veil of ignorance that covers it from reading the OT improperly.
Bald assertion . . . not explanation! The term "New Testament" seems to date to Tertullian in the second century or Lactantius in the third. Lactantius:
"But all Scripture is divided into two Testaments. That which preceded the advent and passion of Christ—that is, the law and the prophets—is called the Old; but those things which were written after His resurrection are named the New Testament."
You and all your biblical literalist friends retain the OT . . . NOT as validation and explanation of Jesus and His importance . . . but as ignorant primitive explanations of God. This is the major deception the Devil wreaked on our ancestors who were supposed to use the OT to validate what Christ represented as of God . . . but NOT as accurate understanding of God. THAT understanding is attained from the "mind of Christ" . . . NOT the OT. Bunk . . . it is psychologically impossible to truly love that which you fear . . . no matter HOW you rationalize it.The mirror will be useless to you until you remove the veil of ignorance that covers it from reading the OT improperly.
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I will try to make some sense of what you are try to relate...Lets see....
Okay what is your point in regaurds to the New Testament?
Your assumptions are far from true, we use the OT and NT to gain a batter understanding of Christ. There is so much you do not understand yet you label us as primative in our understanding while reject any understanding that does not agree with yours.
There with with that carnal interpritation of fear, would you care to actually read the definition or is it to primative for you to understand.
What does that mean? The demons believe in Christ.
I don't think that the demons believe Christ to be the means by which man can be reconciled to God, though. They believe in Christ, but "believing in Christ" is not the same thing as "believing Christ."
Christians basically empty themselve out and allow Christ to take over...
I've never really been comfortable with the idea of "allowing Christ to take over." Maybe I'm misunderstanding it, but to me that makes it sound as if Christians, when they "allow Christ to take over," lose their free will and become puppets, doing whatever He commands them to do without any choice in the matter. I agree that it does involve obeying His commandment, but I definitely believe that this is something we do by choice and that making the choice to be obedient is something we must do every day of our lives.
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