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Old 03-15-2010, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Ask Jesus......He did it!! What an Awesome God we serve huh?
wait a minute... A god that makes the dead feel the pain of burning forever is Awesome?



Well folks.. I am speechless that someone thinks God is awesome for burning people alive forever....

Funny because Hitler had a furnace in the concentration camps for burning Jews (and others) alive and yet he was considered a monster.. not AWESOME!

Has anyone watched "The boy in the striped pajamas?" (see here: The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas (2008))

In that movie, one of Hitler's guys has a kid who makes friends with another kid inside the concentration camp...
Spoiler
The Nazi boy sneaks into the camp with his friend.... only to get burned up in the furnace while his dad screams outside the door....

sad but it goes to show that whether Nazi or not... people burning alive or being gassed is not AWESOME~
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Old 03-15-2010, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Out of Florida........
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wait a minute... A god that makes the dead feel the pain of burning forever is Awesome?



Well folks.. I am speechless that someone thinks God is awesome for burning people alive forever....

Funny because Hitler had a furnace in the concentration camps for burning Jews (and others) alive and yet he was considered a monster.. not AWESOME!

Has anyone watched "The boy in the striped pajamas?" (see here: The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas (2008))

In that movie, one of Hitler's guys has a kid who makes friends with another kid inside the concentration camp...
Spoiler
The Nazi boy sneaks into the camp with his friend.... only to get burned up in the furnace while his dad screams outside the door....

sad but it goes to show that whether Nazi or not... people burning alive or being gassed is not AWESOME~

The lake of fire is real, while it was not initially created by God for people but the sinning angels, it will be the abode of all nonbelievers for all of eternity. The choice is all yours...........you get to choose your fate! Hitler didn't offer that! Don't blame God. It's entirely up to you to believe on HIM, or NOT. There is a consequence to sin! Yes, whether you believe it, or NOT!

But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. (Matt. 5:22)

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.
(Matt. 25:41)

For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an example unto those that after should live ungodly; And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished.
(2 Peter 2:4-9)

The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. (Psalms 9:17)

And so much more........

What people need to try and remember is, Hell was prepared for Satan and his angels. NOT FOR YOU!


People have chosen to reject God through Jesus and in fact have condemned themselves to this place called Hell. It is not God's desire that any should perish, but to have everlasting life. God sends no one to hell, every person chooses to walk the path that separates them from God. Please, just remember that God is love and He wants you to accept that love, that's it, that's all.................................FINAL ANSWER!!


Betsey
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Old 03-15-2010, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Originally Posted by Betsey Lane View Post
The lake of fire is real, while it was not initially created by God for people but the sinning angels, it will be the abode of all nonbelievers for all of eternity. The choice is all yours...........you get to choose your fate! Hitler didn't offer that! Don't blame God. It's entirely up to you to believe on HIM, or NOT. There is a consequence to sin! Yes, whether you believe it, or NOT!

But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. (Matt. 5:22)

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.
(Matt. 25:41)

For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an example unto those that after should live ungodly; And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished.
(2 Peter 2:4-9)

The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. (Psalms 9:17)

And so much more........

What people need to try and remember is, Hell was prepared for Satan and his angels. NOT FOR YOU!


People have chosen to reject God through Jesus and in fact have condemned themselves to this place called Hell. It is not God's desire that any should perish, but to have everlasting life. God sends no one to hell, every person chooses to walk the path that separates them from God. Please, just remember that God is love and He wants you to accept that love, that's it, that's all.................................FINAL ANSWER!!


Betsey
Are you the type of parent that requires their child to love them or else?

Also... if given the conscious choice of heaven or hell.... you REALLY think people would willingly choose hell?

PLEASE think about what you are saying. People send themselves to hell?

My post was to point out that burning forever is not "AWESOME"...

I see you disagree.
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Old 03-15-2010, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Out of Florida........
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Are you the type of parent that requires their child to love them or else?

Also... if given the conscious choice of heaven or hell.... you REALLY think people would willingly choose hell?

PLEASE think about what you are saying. People send themselves to hell?

My post was to point out that burning forever is not "AWESOME"...

I see you disagree.
You are really good at twisting word's aren't you? Okay...untwist this: SLOEV UOY SJEUS.........................think on these things. Goodnight katjonjj.
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Old 03-15-2010, 10:14 PM
 
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I've noticed that many times when people who believe in eternal torture talk about it, it's in the future tense. (God will burn people forever.) It's like they believe it's going to happen someday, but have not yet come to grips with the fact that if there's a literal hell, many people from ages past and many people whose obituaries are in the paper today are burning and burning and burning NOW. I'm just curious if they tend to think of hell as something that happens to people someday, or if they think about people burning right now. Not that it really matters a whole lot, but IMO, speaking of it in future tense is an indication of denial.
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Old 03-15-2010, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Does this seem like a clue for anybody? There is death and the first resurrection. There is a second death and then another resurrection.

Not only is there no mention in the Bible of conscious torment in the lake of fire for anybody, all that is ever said by the Bible to actually be in the lake of fire are the two things: death and hades; and, the three entities: the beast, the devil and the false prophet. The beast is the animal impulses of the flesh; the false prophet is the religious impulses of the flesh; and, the devil is the animating spirit of the flesh. No people are ever directly said to be in the lake of fire by Scripture. These are Bible facts. Either bow the stiff neck to God and integrate light from Scripture into your beliefs; or, like all too many, hypocritically mouth the mantra, "We believe the Bible," when you do no such thing.

As far as who goes to "hell," Jesus says, "Every one shall be salted with fire." (Mark 9:49) That's what I believe. We have the baptism with the Holy Ghost and fire now. If that fire works sufficiently, we will not be of the rest who will be, "...saved, yet as though by fire." We either enter through "the narrow way" of life, or, through "the broad way" of destruction. But, one way or another, we will enter into God Who is a consuming fire. There is no other way for anyone! Even those that say they've been born again and filled with the Spirit are not automatically in "salvation." It is only to the Overcomers, to those who are the Victors is the promise to not be hurt by the second death, which is the lake of fire: "Who has an ear, let him hear what the spirit is saying to the ecclesias. 'The one who is conquering may under no circumstances be injured by the second death.'" (Rev 2:11, CLT)
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Old 03-15-2010, 11:16 PM
 
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Lovely religion??? I think i'll pass.
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