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Originally Posted by katjonjj
I must have missed all those verse... list the posts here and I will look at them again.
Heaven is not a literal place up in the clouds... we are not children anymore with dreams of santa and the tooth fairy, let alone winged beings playing the harp amongst the clouds in heaven...
IMO you have not prove heaven is anymore tangible than hell.... but I will willingly change my view if you can prove it....
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If you don't believe in the Bible, than the verses I post mean nothing to you. They are proof to me because I believe that the Bible is God's Word.
DEU 26:15 Look down from heaven, your holy dwelling place, and bless your
people Israel and the land you have given us as you promised on oath to our
forefathers, a land flowing with milk and honey."
PSA 11:4 The LORD is in his holy temple; the LORD is on his heavenly
throne. He observes the sons of men; his eyes examine them.
ISA 66:1 This is what the LORD says: "Heaven is my throne, and the earth
is my footstool. Where is the house you will build for me? Where will my
resting place be?
MAT 5:12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for
in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
6:20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust
do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.
18:10 "See that you do not look down on one of these little ones. For I
tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in
heaven.
MAR 16:19 After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into
heaven and he sat at the right hand of God.
LUK 15:7 I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in
heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons
who do not need to repent.
20:34 Jesus replied, "The people of this age marry and are given in
marriage.
35 But those who are considered worthy of taking part in that age and in
the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage,
36 and they can no longer die; for they are like the angels. They are
God's children, since they are children of the resurrection.
JOH 14:2 In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would
have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you
to be with me that you also may be where I am.
ACT 7:49 "'Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. What kind
of house will you build for me? says the Lord. Or where will my resting
place be?
1TH 4:17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up
together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we
will be with the Lord forever.
HEB 10:34 You sympathized with those in prison and joyfully accepted the
confiscation of your property, because you knew that you yourselves had
better and lasting possessions.
2PE 3:13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new
heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness.
REV 2:7 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the
churches. To him who overcomes, I will give the right to eat from the tree
of life, which is in the paradise of God.
4:4 Surrounding the throne were twenty-four other thrones, and seated on
them were twenty-four elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns of
gold on their heads.
7:9 After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no
one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing
before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white robes
and were holding palm branches in their hands.
13 Then one of the elders asked me, "These in white robes--who are they,
and where did they come from?"
14 I answered, "Sir, you know." And he said, "These are they who have come
out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them
white in the blood of the Lamb.
15 Therefore, "they are before the throne of God and serve him day and
night in his temple; and he who sits on the throne will spread his tent
over them.
16 Never again will they hunger; never again will they thirst. The sun
will not beat upon them, nor any scorching heat.
17 For the Lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd; he
will lead them to springs of living water. And God will wipe away every
tear from their eyes."
15:2 And I saw what looked like a sea of glass mixed with fire and,
standing beside the sea, those who had been victorious over the beast and
his image and over the number of his name. They held harps given them by
God
21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the
first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.
2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from
God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.
3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of
God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and
God himself will be with them and be their God.
4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or
mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."
5 He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new!" Then
he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true."
9 One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last
plagues came and said to me, "Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of
the Lamb."
10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and
showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God.
11 It shone with the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a
very precious jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal.
18 The wall was made of jasper, and the city of pure gold, as pure as
glass.
19 The foundations of the city walls were decorated with every kind of
precious stone. The first foundation was jasper, the second sapphire, the
third chalcedony, the fourth emerald,
21 The twelve gates were twelve pearls, each gate made of a single pearl.
The great street of the city was of pure gold, like transparent glass.
22 I did not see a temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and
the Lamb are its temple.
23 The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the
glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp.
24 The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will
bring their splendor into it.
25 On no day will its gates ever be shut, for there will be no night
there.
26 The glory and honor of the nations will be brought into it.
27 Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is
shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's
book of life.
22:1 Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as
crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb
2 down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the
river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its
fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the
nations.
3 No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb
will be in the city, and his servants will serve him.
4 They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads.
5 There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or
the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will
reign for ever and ever.
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You helped me understand a little more than I did about why I don't believe in traditional Christianity's version of hell.
