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Old 06-15-2007, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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Pretty much what I was thinking. He forgave them for that act, but does not mean He forgive to life giving salvation.
So...they were down 1 point on the Sin Scale? One notch less of sin? What good did that do? NOT trying to belittle your statement, I just truly don't understand.

Will have to get the answer on Monday! Out for the weekend! God bless everyone, thanks for the discussion!
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Old 06-16-2007, 09:42 AM
 
Location: land of quail, bunnies, and red tail hawks
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Back to the original question...

In the story of the Exodus from Egypt, God became so mad at the Israelites that he was going to destroy them. However, Moses interceded and implored God to reconsider for His name's sake. So, the Israelites were spared the earthly and immediate consequence (punishment) for their sin. The prophets of the O.T. (and others) often interceded for the people. Again, immediate consequences were set aside.

I think these are examples of God forgiving either one specific sin or a set of sins when the people didn't ask for forgiveness. One person interceded on their behalf and asked God to forgive. Consequently, the people didn't receive the immediate, earthly punishment of their sin.

Let's contrast that with Korah who led Israelites in rebellion in the wilderness. No one interceded for him; he, his family, and all who joined in the rebellion were immediately destroyed. The same thing happened when Achan kept some of the plunder from Jericho. No one interceded. Achan and his family suffered the consequences of Achan's sin (although, this time, it was at the people's hands but by God's direction). In the book of Acts, we see Ananias and Sapphira suffer the immediate consequence of their sin; no one had interceded on their behalf.

I can't imagine an act more vile that what Jesus experienced. What would the Father's reaction be? If anyone ever deserved an immediate zapping from God, these people did. However, Jesus interceded. Unlike all the examples I've used so far, however, the people who crucified Jesus really didn't understand what they were doing; they didn't understand that He was God and that He was perfect. Some probably thought they were doing the right thing. So Jesus interceded for the people and asked the Father to forgive them. Like others, I think it was only for this one act and perhaps the sins leading up to the act.
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