Development News (Cincinnati, Perry: lawyers, association, ordinances)

[Ohiogirl81]

Originally Posted by TomJones123

At least the rendering is no where near as ugly as recent completed projects.

I dunno about that. It looks so .... cheap. Flimsy.

But on these issues I don't mind being proven wrong.

[neilworms2]

^-Its better than most of what they put up. At the very least this one is replacing a school that had asbestos abatement issues, would have been hard to keep the old building (though the castle facade on it was really cool and it would have been awesome if that could have been kept around and incorporated into something else.

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On another note, this is really cool, never understood why such prime buildings particularly with the banks going online were sitting as shells:
Building Cincinnati: 3CDC buys endangered buildings on lower Main Street

[TomJones123]

Originally Posted by Ohiogirl81

I dunno about that. It looks so .... cheap. Flimsy.

But on these issues I don't mind being proven wrong.

I have no doubt it will be cheap and flimsy. It just looks better.

[deg1114]

Originally Posted by neilworms2

On another note, this is really cool, never understood why such prime buildings particularly with the banks going online were sitting as shells:
Building Cincinnati: 3CDC buys endangered buildings on lower Main Street

We walked past those buildings just yesterday and was wondering about them. With all of the activity there and with them being architectural beauties, they would be perfect to rehab. I just hope that they do get them structurally sound and do some good with them!

[flashes1]

Those buildings are in the right hands, and a conveniently located to the Banks, GABP, Great American Tower, and P&G. It sounds like they're being put on the back-burner as 3CDC as bigger fish to fry at the moment, but they're a good intermediate to long-term project.

[abr7rmj]

Originally Posted by neilworms2

^-Its better than most of what they put up. At the very least this one is replacing a school that had asbestos abatement issues, would have been hard to keep the old building (though the castle facade on it was really cool and it would have been awesome if that could have been kept around and incorporated into something else.

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On another note, this is really cool, never understood why such prime buildings particularly with the banks going online were sitting as shells:
Building Cincinnati: 3CDC buys endangered buildings on lower Main Street

I think because, for a long time, that site was envisioned as space for an extension of the Atrium complex, perhaps even for a new tower. But this building cluster is actually on the National Register for Historic Places, meaning demolition for an office tower would have been a difficult - though not impossible - proposal.

So they sat in limbo for years, old brownstones decaying in the shadows of huge, modern skyscrapers and against a busy highway on downtown's southern edge.

Thankfully, 3CDC has come to the rescue again. These buildings will hopefully become residential condominium with street-level retail.

Main and Third Street Cluster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Sarah Perry]

Originally Posted by abr7rmj

I think because, for a long time, that site was envisioned as space for an extension of the Atrium complex, perhaps even for a new tower. But this building cluster is actually on the National Register for Historic Places, meaning demolition for an office tower would have been a difficult - though not impossible - proposal.

So they sat in limbo for years, old brownstones decaying in the shadows of huge, modern skyscrapers and against a busy highway on downtown's southern edge.

Thankfully, 3CDC has come to the rescue again. These buildings will hopefully become residential condominium with street-level retail.

Main and Third Street Cluster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How heartening to see that however some things change, you can be counted on to continue to spout misinformation on a variey of topics. National Register listing in and of itself has zero, zip, nada to do with what an owner does with a property, unless federal dollars are somehow involved. If the buildings were not demolished, it was for some other reason.

[abr7rmj]

Originally Posted by Sarah Perry

How heartening to see that however some things change, you can be counted on to continue to spout misinformation on a variey of topics. National Register listing in and of itself has zero, zip, nada to do with what an owner does with a property, unless federal dollars are somehow involved. If the buildings were not demolished, it was for some other reason.

Say what? I've heard multiple times that the Atrium owners had long eyed that land for a possible expansion which, it seems, they no longer do. I also noted the buildings' National Register designation.

Demolition would be possible under the designation. It wouldn't have been popular though, and would likely have been fought by numerous groups and tied up in court with enough red tape to circle the globe. Look at the Gamble House, which the owners would love to demolish but, obviously, cannot. Yet.

[TomJones123]

Originally Posted by Sarah Perry

How heartening to see that however some things change, you can be counted on to continue to spout misinformation on a variey of topics. National Register listing in and of itself has zero, zip, nada to do with what an owner does with a property, unless federal dollars are somehow involved. If the buildings were not demolished, it was for some other reason.

And you are telling half the story. You are correct as far as Federal law is concerned. But local preservation ordinance can damn good and well stop demolition, dictate what property owners can and cant' do, etc.

You really don't have to be so snarky in your comments. It was uncalled for.

[kjbrill]

Originally Posted by TomJones123

And you are telling half the story. You are correct as far as Federal law is concerned. But local preservation ordinance can damn good and well stop demolition, dictate what property owners can and cant' do, etc.

You really don't have to be so snarky in your comments. It was uncalled for.

And I also do not feel National Historical Registration is a Carte Blanche to protect a property from the wrecking ball. There has to be some kind of organization existing to pay for the upkeep and maintenance of the property and a visible public benefit from its existence.