Cincinnati is becoming second fiddle to Columbus (Cleveland, Toledo: suburbia, areas)

[kjbrill]

Yes, Cheviot and Amberley Village do represent two separate governmental entities which are within the CPS district. Thanks for pointing them out.

Some of the notables totally surrounded by Cincinnati, but having their own school districts would be of course Norwood and St Bernard-Elmwood Place.

[ram2]

Originally Posted by Wahl_Wrighter

Another thread that has devolved into a discussion about the city versus the suburbs. Why am I not surprised?

Cincinnati is not becoming second fiddle to Columbus. Outside of the state, Columbus has yet to shed its image of being an overgrown college cowtown. From my experiences, a lot of people place Columbus in the same category as cities such as Madison, WI and Ann Arbor, MI; albeit not accurate. Columbus is a great city however, but it is not taken seriously as a contender of "real cities" by many people, even within Ohio. You never or rarely hear anyone inquiring whether or not Cincinnati is a real city. With Columbus, that is not so much the case since a lot of people have no clue about Columbus outside of OSU.

I never hear anyone in Michigan comparing Ann Arbor to Columbus. Lansing to Columbus maybe.

[13th Alphabet]

Originally Posted by ram2

I never hear anyone in Michigan comparing Ann Arbor to Columbus. Lansing to Columbus maybe.

Not many people give thought to any of those cities, but they are often lumped together since they are home to large Big Ten schools. And Michigan State often trails in the shadows of the University of Michigan, so a lot of people usually think of Ann Arbor before giving thought to Lansing.

[abr7rmj]

Originally Posted by Wahl_Wrighter

Not many people give thought to any of those cities, but they are often lumped together since they are home to large Big Ten schools. And Michigan State often trails in the shadows of the University of Michigan, so a lot of people usually think of Ann Arbor before giving thought to Lansing.

Michigan State's campus is far more impressive and picturesque than Michigan's. OSU's is also. I was never impressed with Ann Arbor at all.

I've been to all the Big Ten campuses except Penn State and I would put Michigan State and Iowa as the top two. Nebraska is the worst.

[Ohiogirl81]

Originally Posted by TomJones123

And I would hardly call Norwood suburban. If your definition of suburban is anything outside Cincinnati then we are speaking two separate languages, and I would encourage you to read up on the topic a little so you can see where I am coming from.

You guys want some real fun arguing over what is and isn't a suburb, come on over to the urban planning forum! I guarantee you won't be bored. LOL

And I think anyone with common sense would agree that while Norwood does indeed have some urban aspects to it, it is most definitely a suburb of Cincinnati.

[TomJones123]

Originally Posted by Ohiogirl81

it is most definitely a suburb of Cincinnati.

Not to sound as though I am zeroing in on you Ohiogirl81, I am just stating in the overall context.

When I speak of urban area I am following the Census Bureau logic that concentrates on population density, amenities, etc. They do that to get a better handle on true population, transcending all the local squabbles that come with various cities, municipalities, etc.

[austiNati]

Norwood is a suburb, but is not suburban at all. It's actually more urban than some parts of Cincy proper. Same for Elmwood and St. Bernard.









Oh wait, I already said that.

[abr7rmj]

Originally Posted by Ohiogirl81

You guys want some real fun arguing over what is and isn't a suburb, come on over to the urban planning forum! I guarantee you won't be bored. LOL

And I think anyone with common sense would agree that while Norwood does indeed have some urban aspects to it, it is most definitely a suburb of Cincinnati.

Norwood, like St. Bernard, is completely surrounded on all sides by the City of Cincinnati. Calling it suburban is a bit of a stretch. But then again, Vatican City is its own country.

[motorman]

Originally Posted by abr7rmj

Norwood, like St. Bernard, is completely surrounded on all sides by the City of Cincinnati. Calling it suburban is a bit of a stretch. But then again, Vatican City is its own country.

It's no secret that Norwood is an "inland island" in great transition. Not all that long ago Norwood was one of the fortresses of blue collar, redneck, white racist Cincinnati. For ages, many black citizens even feared crossing Dana Ave north and avoided traveling through the community, except in numbers and at high speed. (Sorry to say, their fear of Norwood was not unwarranted.) Today, this "stronghold of yesteryear" no longer exists.

[motorman]

Originally Posted by abr7rmj

I think we long ago dispelled that notion. That's why this thread has spiraled into other areas, because its original premise was proven incorrect.

That's really too bad--mainly because some our most ingenious and hilarious thinking stemmed from our combined efforts to topple a common enemy. Pray tell, just who are we going to combat now, if it isn't COLUMBUS (?)