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Old 06-03-2012, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Someone also disagreed with Tex's proposition that Chicago had more of a sports culture than NYC. I would agree with him, I have never been ANYWHERE that is more fanatical about sports than Chicago is. Its on a whole different level than any other city - even the soccer team is one of the most popular ones in the country just to put it into perspective.


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Also a lot of posters here were talking about how the riverfront is the perfect location for the stadiums - I would agree with them except for one point - Broadway Commmons. That would have been by far a much better spot for them, as its an area integrated into a struggling neighborhood - it would have been something like Wrigley Field or Fenway park - both of wich have thriving urban neighborhoods completely surrounding both parks, though Wrigley's is even more vibrant - try going there on a Saturday night sometime in the middle of the summer after a cubs game... THATs the kind of thing Cincinnati could have had, and it would have been better than the banks because also in the process all of those beautiful dense old buildings could have seen new life instead of starting out with a neighborhood from scratch.
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Old 06-03-2012, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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starting out with a neighborhood from scratch.
Nah, I disagree. Cincinnati's riverfront should be one of it's greatest assets and instead it is just starting to be utilized. The more attractions that can be jammed into that area the better, and the stadiums and Bank Arena are a great fit, IMO. The casino will fit nicely in Broadway Commons and should bring new life to Pendleton.
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Old 06-03-2012, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Nah, I disagree. Cincinnati's riverfront should be one of it's greatest assets and instead it is just starting to be utilized. The more attractions that can be jammed into that area the better, and the stadiums and Bank Arena are a great fit, IMO. The casino will fit nicely in Broadway Commons and should bring new life to Pendleton.
Keep Paul Brown Stadium and the parks there as a redevelopment plan, along with the banks, but with the other stadium at Broadway commons it would allow for more neighborhood and parkland to be developed there. I think it would have been a win win situation that would have stimulated growth in two strategically important places for the Cincinnati region.

Also, as nice as the Casino is for the area, IMO the Stadium would have been a lot better, it has a much broader appeal than the Casino does and at least there would have been something more substantial to go along with the neighborhood. The Casino IMO has a terribly suburban design for being next to Pendleton which IMO is reminiscent of Boston's North End or Greenwhich Village in NYC. :P

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Old 06-03-2012, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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I see. Thanks for elaborating. Def. agree on the Casino design. I love Pendleton, btw. The neighborhood just needs a shot in the arm.
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Old 06-03-2012, 02:14 PM
 
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Ok, time for someone currently LIVING in Chicago to chime in on this.
How I wish that were true. In the political entity named "Chicago," there are so many transplants, children of suburban parents and locals who reached adulthood after 1990 that Chicago is forever lost.

Now, we have people living in Chicago who think Buckingham Fountain and Meigs Field are in the Loop.

Cincinnati still has a masculine, older and more "real" feel to it.
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Old 06-03-2012, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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Even Cleveland refutes the OP's erroneous points of view.

Cincinnati fights its way back into hearts of hip and trendy (photo gallery) | cleveland.com

Maybe the photo gallery can clue them in on what to do next time they are supposedly around.
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Old 06-03-2012, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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I thought everyone in Cincinnati hated Cleveland, Clevelanders, and what Clevelanders think?
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Old 06-03-2012, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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^^ There you go thinking again.
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Old 06-04-2012, 05:04 AM
 
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Cincy needs to be careful appealing to that set. "Hip and trendy" is a flattering and inaccurate name the "soft and sissified" generation gave themselves. 30 years ago, walking around with an electronic device on you made you a dork, now, it's this generation's entertainment and social hub.
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Old 06-04-2012, 07:57 AM
 
Location: OH
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Even Cleveland refutes the OP's erroneous points of view.

Cincinnati fights its way back into hearts of hip and trendy (photo gallery) | cleveland.com

Maybe the photo gallery can clue them in on what to do next time they are supposedly around.
I understand your intent, but it's not like Cincinnati needs to prove anything to Cleveland. It's not as if Cleveland is so far "ahead" that they can look down their noses at Cincinnati. Cleveland may have a higher population density, but Cincy is built much more urban IMO, and has the potential to be a more urban and dense city than it currently is.

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Cincy needs to be careful appealing to that set. "Hip and trendy" is a flattering and inaccurate name the "soft and sissified" generation gave themselves. 30 years ago, walking around with an electronic device on you made you a dork, now, it's this generation's entertainment and social hub.
The "hip and trendy" or otherwise hipster subset that you apparently have a disdain for are often the trailblazers who help create vibrant and energetic cities.
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