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Tubby, you have a great attitude. 90% of happiness is acceptance. There is always someone richer, thinner, better looking girlfriend or wife or both , faster car, blah, blah blah.
When I was in graduate school I went at night and every night I would drive down through the oldest section of Covington and I always went by this certain group of little tiny houses (the size of a two car garage). And several of them have old people that I would just wave at and say hello if my window was open or whatever. They were like old German ladies and gents. And, they were the most relaxed happy people I saw all day after a long day at a big CPA firm and then a rush hour drive over to Kentucky it was quite refreshing. And I often wondered how they were so relaxed and happy living in a tiny little place with the Xway right over head. But it was real comforting seeing them there as happy as can be sweeping the sidewalk and holding the little dog and rocking on the front porch.
As long as I can force a Coney or a corned beef sandwich in my pie hole, I can have the gratitude outweigh the miseries.
Thank you, I do try to have a good attitude. A positive one can really go a long way. Haha I recall you telling me happiness is acceptance. I wasn't sure what to make of it, but I can dig it. You certainly are right. I will also say I might not have such a good attitude if I lived in a house the size of a 2 car garage under an xway.
I second your thoughts on a coney (or 4) outweighing miseries any day.
Where are the awful ghettos of Cincinnati exactly? I guess I don't make it a point to hang out at Fay Apartments, but I can't for the life of me think of anywhere that I would consider a HORRIBLE ghetto. Furthermore, if someone is working and making at least $8 an hour, there are plenty of apts for $400 a month to live in in decent places. The cost of living here is so awesome that I find it hard to believe people are forced to live somewhere awful. Again, I suppose I'm relying that they are at least flipping burgers or something similar. I don't get it.
Cincinnati has a long history with Govt subsidized housing. Laurel Homes downtown (now demolished) was among the first in the U.S. My mother lived there in the 30' with my Grandmother and Uncle (my Grandfather died from Pneumonia he caught while working in poor conditions at a meat plant). Some of those people that grew up with my mom never moved away from the housing project as time went on and the Ghettos changed for the worse. Many of the younger generation languished in poor schools, poor surroundings AND the presiding mindset of peers and family members that you were somehow not "black enough" if you tried to better yourself.
Fast forward to 2010 and many of those same mindsets apply, the hoods change location but the mindsets follow these people no matter where they go. Only a few escape (my parents) but in my own family I have cousins that are satisfied living in Avondale (the hood), Evanston, and other areas where violent crime DOES occur.
Using your example of a 'burger flipper' --I LOVE when people use this as an example as a way a person can survive. My sister does these low pay jobs and I will tell you that restaurants only pay the manager on a 40 hr schedule. The other might get 20 hrs if lucky. If it is a slow day you go home. What also happens is that most living and having a lease in these homes are single mothers. So Lashaquesha has 5 kids and needs to go to work, she needs daycare and if she makes $10.05 per hour she cannot qualify for a daycare voucher (I used to work w the county), so she has NO motivation to make more money and is penalized for doing so. Even going to work retail you run into the same problem with getting full-time status.
I am by no means offering an excuse but when people make bad choices there aren't many fixes to make these problems vanish overnight. The cycle or poverty involves changing the MINDSET before anything else.
Great post, Bigbluelandrover. Yes, I could probably trot out the "WLW Only-Those-That-Don't-Want-To-Better-Themselves-Live-In-The-Hood" schtick. But it's really not like that. Not all of us can be entrepreneurs. Or execs at Fortune 500 companies. SOMEBODY has got to do the grunt work. But at the risk of being accused of being a Socialists, those that do the grunt work should share in the bounty that this nation offers. I know that's a tall order to fill. Certainly, everybody has a different idea of what a job should pay. And businesses make money by reducing labor costs. So what's the right answer? Use and abuse someone on an assembly line for their whole working life. Then cast them aside when they're old and crippled up and let the taxpayers (or at least the ones who don't have enough money to shelter their incomes) pay for their support.
I probably deserve what you want to say. But why on earth does anyone who's making low wages that fast food or other low-skilled occupation have 5 kids? I'm also about living within your means and being responsible for your actions...
I probably deserve what you want to say. But why on earth does anyone who's making low wages that fast food or other low-skilled occupation have 5 kids? I'm also about living within your means and being responsible for your actions...
This part of the post I agree with,, but that other socialist stuff you posted is just the road to mediocrity. That socialist experiment has been conducted all over Europe for 6 decades. How's it working? Their entreprenurial base came here. Maybe we can run them off too?
Great post, Bigbluelandrover. Yes, I could probably trot out the "WLW Only-Those-That-Don't-Want-To-Better-Themselves-Live-In-The-Hood" schtick. But it's really not like that. Not all of us can be entrepreneurs. Or execs at Fortune 500 companies. SOMEBODY has got to do the grunt work. But at the risk of being accused of being a Socialists, those that do the grunt work should share in the bounty that this nation offers. I know that's a tall order to fill. Certainly, everybody has a different idea of what a job should pay. And businesses make money by reducing labor costs. So what's the right answer? Use and abuse someone on an assembly line for their whole working life. Then cast them aside when they're old and crippled up and let the taxpayers (or at least the ones who don't have enough money to shelter their incomes) pay for their support.
I probably deserve what you want to say. But why on earth does anyone who's making low wages that fast food or other low-skilled occupation have 5 kids? I'm also about living within your means and being responsible for your actions...
Heck Crew, why have even 1 child if you are low-skilled and destined for flippin burgers? I can only tell you that I have seen, and have a few cousins that live this way. Some of it is learned behavior and something that is the "norm" in the hood. I am 38 and MANY of the women I graduated HS with are proud GRANDMOTHERS!. I can't even fathom it but the attitude prevails that having kids is cute.
I'm not on the WLW team but I'm SURELY not supporting the folks that know how to bilk the system. Way to many people have gotten complacent because we keep handfeeding them checks.
So going back to the topic of the thread, look at the crime report websites and the enquirer. Anyone that really wants to know where the bad areas are will see a pattern of where the violent crimes occur.
Just discovered this thread and I'm going to slightly agree with the title. Cincinnati gets bashed all the time for being the murderous, ugly, polluted, traffic filled wasteland and anyone who's lived here for at least 2 years knows that's a bunch of crap.
Right now as I speak every city is going through a blossoming effect, meaning that crime that could once be found in the inner city areas and that never could be found in outer ring suburbs is starting to move outward, whether the inner city crime stays or goes with the outer rim of the blossom, it is still happening. If you look at the patterns of crime reports in areas known as rich and safe, it seems that the outer rim of this blossom is starting to find its way into many of the outer ring suburbs we have.
This is true since the inner city seems to be starting to tear down old section 8 housing projects and do the same thing Atlanta is doing and rebuilding with nicer condo's and apartments where these once stood, basically Cincinnati is getting back at the suburbs for taking all of the population growth away from city limits. People are coming back to the city limits and even though population growth in the city proper may be low, we will most likely begin to see it rise by unusual amounts when more of our many "deghettoization" projects are finished.
Sorry to say this but the only thing that people will making fun of us for in about ten years or so is our outer ring suburbs, but admiring how much effort the city has put into restoring its status as the Los Angeles of the Midwest. Sorry Fairfield, and Westchester and all of you other plastic suburban inhabitants but you'll be getting laughed at when you tell someone where you live.
I can already see things changing in inner ring suburbs especially on the West and Eastside, even if the areas aren't within the city. Areas on the west such as Green Township and Dent (yes i know that's in G.T.) seem to be following in the Northern Suburbs footsteps, although someday this will most likely be the thing to laugh at, it seems to be bringing people back to the Westside and people are starting to actually move here from other sides of the city and stop bashing it with comments like "Who moves there?" and "Noone from other parts of the city ever move there".
So if the survey really is supporting the city proper, than looks like we will be off the list in no time since I heard the section 8 buildings you see coming down the hill on I-74 on top of Baltimore Av, off of Montana are coming down in not too long. That might just be a rumor, but Westwood and Cheviot could pull it off for sure, what's a couple of city owned apartments going to help you with? Maybe making extra bits of money, but do you actually think I want to live anywhere near those things? (Even though Monfort Heights is right up the hill?)
Off topic but I love it how once you get past Montana and into Green Township on 74 everything becomes nicer all of a sudden, unusually nicer. But that's enough of my statements, hoped that opened a couple of people's eyes and made them be happy to live in the city and even happier in not too long. See you city people on the rail cars and at The Banks!
To the Euro-basher here, Germany has a better quality of life than the US, exports more than it imports, and doesn't treat its poor people like dogs, like the USA does. That "socialist" experiment has worked wonderfully in at least that country in Europe. And they pay less taxes as a percentage of their income than I do here in the USA when City/State/SS/Medicare/Fed taxes are added up. They have both a comprehensive mass transit system with both regional and local rail in parallel with their autobahns rival our interstates here.
Sorry, but I get really tired of my fellow ignorant Americans who haven't lived abroad and have no idea what a joke we are to other countries with more advanced societies.
To the Euro-basher here, Germany has a better quality of life than the US, exports more than it imports, and doesn't treat its poor people like dogs, like the USA does. That "socialist" experiment has worked wonderfully in at least that country in Europe. And they pay less taxes as a percentage of their income than I do here in the USA when City/State/SS/Medicare/Fed taxes are added up. They have both a comprehensive mass transit system with both regional and local rail in parallel with their autobahns rival our interstates here.
Sorry, but I get really tired of my fellow ignorant Americans who haven't lived abroad and have no idea what a joke we are to other countries with more advanced societies.
Well, again we have another "ugly American" post. Oh, yea, Germany is a far more advanced society. They murdered 15 million of their underclass and drove the survivors out of the county just two generations ago. And to prevent a repeat of the process, their imported workers, Italians and Czecks get to take the train out of the country every weekend. Of course, if Germany had 40 million disaffected black persons who have been force fed a diet of racial grievance for 150 years I'm sure they would do a whole lot better job. Do you know how blacks are regarded in Germany? They are called "garbage." They ridicule the US for their elevation of a black underclass. In Germany, our black population are regarded as subhuman.
Morons who look to the homogeneous societies of Europe and analogize their problems and the solutions they have presented simply hate America and offer false arguments. France for example has a minority underclass. A very small group, but they have been rioting continuously since the early part of the decade. Great job France.
I don't think we should pretend to understand and simplify European countries and the things they do. Maybe in Norway public housing is the bees knees, but it doesn't really matter. As a country, we have decided for better or worse that poor people should strive to have more money so we don't want to make things too nice for them. So let's figure out how to enable that upward mobility and perhaps figure out what to do about the 35% unemployment rate among young black males, for example.
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