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Old 09-12-2016, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Kennedy Heights, Ohio. USA
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Take the bus.

I'm with Chemistry Guy -- Target isn't much to get excited about. The sanitation of the city continues. I'll go back even another decade or two and wax nostalgic about the Cupboard, Scentiments, Dollar Bill's, InCahoots, ask those little bars and restaurants and funky shops ... none of which were seedy anyway, except in the minds of University muckety mucks.
That is why I think you need stringent zoning regulations in place similar to what the town of Shaker Heights outside of Cleveland has in place to preserve the character of a locale and to prevent developers from transforming an unique urban locale into boring generic suburbia or as someone previously said a mini Mason. If Mayor Cranley had his way he would let developers do the same thing to Over The Rhine as evidenced by the recent approval to demolish an 140 year old structure in order to construct some suburbia generic high rise condo. Wish we could learn from Germany on how to replace or rebuild structures with similar aesthetics as they did in Berlin after it was totally destroyed in WWII.
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Old 07-12-2017, 05:24 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati (Norwood)
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The long wait for the new Target store is almost over...

From the Business Journal:
* https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinna...tore-near.html

The opening of this small-format CUF store will probably be a gala affair similar to the opening of Kroger's Corryville store. It's for certain that the event will be carefully observed by Kroger management.
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Old 07-19-2017, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati (Norwood)
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The long wait is over: First Ohio mini Target store opens in Cincinnati - WCPO Cincinnati, OH
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Old 07-19-2017, 03:43 PM
 
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If Amazon were building that store, it would have a robust capability for pick-up of online orders.
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Old 07-19-2017, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati (Norwood)
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If Amazon were building that store, it would have a robust capability for pick-up of online orders.
Pray tell, why would Amazon open such a store so close to the one already there?

* Amazon store opens at UC Thursday - Cincinnati News, FOX19-WXIX TV

* https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/blog/2016/01/take-a-look-inside-cincinnati-s-first-amazon-store.html
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Old 07-19-2017, 10:12 PM
 
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That isn't my point. My point is that this new Target concept store apparently isn't designed to advance a multi-channel strategy. The new Amazon store in University Hts. reinforces this point, and likely will provide tought competition for the Target store even with no physical inventory.
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Old 07-20-2017, 05:22 AM
 
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University stores, especially in bad neighborhoods like the Target store, suffer from ghetto discounts, meaning shoplifting. No one can make money selling groceries when a pack of shoplifted batteries wipes out the profit from an entire cart of food. This is an experiment that has been conducted over and over and over. Target will not change it even if they put armed guards and metal detectors at the door. But, they will establish goodwill among future suburban customers.
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Old 07-21-2017, 07:13 AM
 
Location: OH
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University stores, especially in bad neighborhoods like the Target store, suffer from ghetto discounts, meaning shoplifting. No one can make money selling groceries when a pack of shoplifted batteries wipes out the profit from an entire cart of food. This is an experiment that has been conducted over and over and over. Target will not change it even if they put armed guards and metal detectors at the door. But, they will establish goodwill among future suburban customers.
Clifton Heights, which is where the new Target is located is not located in a bad neighborhood. It sounds like you haven't spent much time in Clifton since U Square was built. Before U Sqaure was built, I might not have been able to disagree with you. Additionally, Target tends not to attract the element you're referring to in large numbers. Lastly, the type of Target that was placed there is not meant to draw people from a huge area, which I doubt it will once the grand opening shine wears off. It's designed to fill a niche that has been missing in the immediate area.
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Old 07-22-2017, 05:30 AM
 
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Clifton Heights, which is where the new Target is located is not located in a bad neighborhood. It sounds like you haven't spent much time in Clifton since U Square was built. Before U Sqaure was built, I might not have been able to disagree with you. Additionally, Target tends not to attract the element you're referring to in large numbers. Lastly, the type of Target that was placed there is not meant to draw people from a huge area, which I doubt it will once the grand opening shine wears off. It's designed to fill a niche that has been missing in the immediate area.

Uh, are you from Cincinnati? One might find more thugs in Winton Terrace or East Price Hill, but, the 1 mile area around the new Target store will be a good place to start to find property crime. I'd put that 1 mile radius up against any other place in Cincinnati for theft of property which is what I referred to. Probably number 1.
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Old 07-23-2017, 10:46 AM
 
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Uh, are you from Cincinnati? One might find more thugs in Winton Terrace or East Price Hill, but, the 1 mile area around the new Target store will be a good place to start to find property crime. I'd put that 1 mile radius up against any other place in Cincinnati for theft of property which is what I referred to. Probably number 1.
But let's look at things from the business side. 30,000 square feet is the size of your typical Odd Lots (Big Lots, but I still call it by it's original name). Back in the 1970's this footprint was considered a large-sized grocery store. The typical Ontario, Gold Circle, Kmart, Buckeye Mart of the era is 80,000 square feet. That lone Marsh store in Fairfield was about 30,000 square feet.

Your typical Kroger is now 80,000 to 100,000 square feet. 40,000 square feet (a big store not too long ago) is too small for them to make money because they can't carry enough high-profit items and they have to restock more often (higher labor costs).

What this sounds like to me is ......... Woolworths. Except that Woolworth's couldn't make money with that kind of a footprint.

Woolworth's (still around as Foot Locker) didn't have the kind of technology Target has. Maybe that will be the difference. Otherwise, if Woolworth's couldn't make money with small stores, I don't see how Target will.
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