New York Times write-up

[newdixiegirl]

Originally Posted by Wilson513

Hyde Park is the neighborhood you will want to visit. All of the nice City amenities surround Hyde Park. It is economically diverse, walkable, lovely and safe. An hour on a park bench in the Square on a Saturday afternoon following a nice lunch at one of the 66 decent bars or restaurants you can walk to, maybe a little shopping, is all you need to convince you to load up the U-Haul and find an affordable spot.

Originally Posted by PerryMason614

Wilson is also correct about Hyde Park. If you are pressed for time, I would pick Hyde Park over Mt. Adams. If you're not pressed for time, I'd do both.

I know you didn't ask, but over the next several years, I would also do Downtown Indianapolis if I were you, and a quick spin through the West side of Fort Wayne if you haven't already.

Thanks for the recommendations! It's funny you mention Indianapolis, because that's another city I've thought I'd like to explore.

[PerryMason614]

Originally Posted by newdixiegirl

Thanks for the recommendations! It's funny you mention Indianapolis, because that's another city I've thought I'd like to explore.

We went there I don't know how many years ago when Ohio State was in the NCAA tournament. I really liked Indy's downtown area.

At the end of the day, it's just buildings, but if you enjoy seeing different streetscapes, Indy's not a bad place to go. The west side of Fort Wayne is also the old money side ... from Downtown to about Jefferson Pointe. That area always struck me as nice. I once spent an entire day driving around Fort Wayne. I liked the town, but then again I'm weird that way.

Dayton's worth a stop, especially Carillon Historical Park and the Air Force Museum. They have one of the JFK Air Force Ones there as well as the plane Eisenhower used before that. That alone is worth the stop. Admission to the Air Force Museum is free.

Downtown, Centerville, Bellbrook, Beavercreek and the Air Force base are worth seeing in Dayton. There's a Frank Lloyd Wright House in Springfield, Wittenburg University. Skip everything else.

Lima and Findlay are worth quick drive throughs. Lima has a decent Downtown and Findlay, because of Marathon and Cooper Tire, is a lot nicer than you would expect.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/evol...lery-1.2096807

http://www.cleveland.com/travel/inde...eum_grows.html

P.S. The first Air Force One is the plane on display in Dayton. Kennedy's dead body was flown home on it.

[Wilson513]

Indianapolis has many good things going on. Charm and character not included. It is utterly "charmless." If you would eat the same order at Big Boy restaurants every day and own a gold Kia Optima, you could live in Indianapolis.

[PerryMason614]

Originally Posted by Wilson513

Indianapolis has many good things going on. Charm and character not included. It is utterly "charmless." If you would eat the same order at Big Boy restaurants every day and own a gold Kia Optima, you could live in Indianapolis.

You're kind of right about the "charmlessness" but the Downtown is nice in a new office park sort of way, which at least at the time I saw it (about 15 years ago), made it nicer than most other downtowns of cities the same size. I don't know how I would react today and I don't remember too much of it, but I did like it.

I do think they have one or two hipster neighborhoods, but not sure where they are.

All I know is that the Columbus companies that went there (Lazarus, The Dispatch (WTHR), Huntington, Honda, Chase/Bank One), liked it and they stayed so it must be a good market.

[WILWRadio]

Originally Posted by Wilson513

Indianapolis has many good things going on. Charm and character not included. It is utterly "charmless." If you would eat the same order at Big Boy restaurants every day and own a gold Kia Optima, you could live in Indianapolis.

The service and food in many of the Indianapolis area restaurants is sub par. I lived there long enough to know and still work there and it has not changed. Thankfully the food quality and level of service in the Cincinnati area is vastly superior to that of Indianapolis restaurants. Rarely have issues here in NKY or the OH side.

[Coseau]

What most people don't realize is that Hyde Park for all of its existence has been an upper class well to do neighborhood where the city's elite resided. Mount Adams on the other hand during its existence transformed from a well to do neighborhood in the late 19th century (where people of financial means would live as opposed to the overcrowded tenements of congested Over the Rhine) to a more diverse range of class in inhabitants / most visited neighborhood by tourists (due to the streetcar incline) in the early to mid 20th century similar to a present day Camp Washington then again to a well to do neighborhood by the 1970's till the present day. The two photos below was why Mt Adams was the neighborhood that had the highest amount of tourism before the streetcar incline was dismantled.
[IMG]DSC_2239 by GGG BBB, on Flickr[/IMG]
[IMG]DSC_2233 by GGG BBB, on Flickr[/IMG]


The reason parking is awful in Mount Adams was that the neighborhood is still much intact from the horse and buggy days of the late 1800s.

The only time you will see a 3 hour traffic jam here in Cincinnati is if there is a traffic accident with a fatality or a semi tractor trailer has overturned. Traffic is congested on the highways during rush hour and will add about a few minutes to a half hour or 45 minutes to your drive time depending on on the distance of your destination. If you live in the city proper you can get to pretty much anywhere in a relatively short amount of time even during rush hour.

[Wilson513]

Of course, the Hyde Park is elitist meme is false. Only people unfamiliar with Hyde Park repeat it. It is a highly egalitarian middle class neighborhood. Median rent (for those of you from Kennedy Heights that means half are lower) $753/mo. that doesn't sound so elite to me. Half of the residents renting in HP are paying less than $753/mo.

Housing prices have soared in Hyde Park very recently due to the fact that there is no more land available here. Decent houses are being torn down. All of this is driven by the incredible quality of life offered in HP.