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Old 06-10-2010, 02:08 PM
 
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Los Angeles is North America's most bohemian metro, followed by New York, Vancouver, Toronto, and greater Washington, D.C. Rounding out the top 10 are Nashville, Salt Lake City (which may come as a surprise to some), Minneapolis-St. Paul, San Francisco, and Montréal. Several other metros -- Seattle, Portland, Oregon, Kansas City, and Las Vegas -- have Boho Index scores of 1.2 or greater. And, Boston, Cincinnati, San Diego, Providence, Ottawa, Milwaukee, Rochester, Orlando, Miami, and Calgary all have Boho Index scores above the North American norm. Large metros dominate the overall rankings of all 350-plus metros with the exception of Santa Fe: With a Boho Index score of 2.6 it actually tops the combined list of North American metros. Of smaller places -- Madison, Bridgeport, Lancaster, Eugene, Burlington, Lawrence, Tuscon, Provo, Green Bay, and Lincoln in the United States, as well as Halifax, Victoria, Peterborough, and Guelph in Canada -- all have Boho Index values above the norm.

But Cowen and his readers asked specifically about the least bohemian regions. That dubious distinction goes to...eh, hem...Riverside, California. Next in line are Hartford, Connecticut, and, perhaps surprisingly, New Orleans. This is not a result of Katrina. New Orleans has consistently ranked lower than expected on the Boho Index -- a fact which led to this lively back and forth in the New Orleans media some years ago. The reason is that the index measures only those for whom arts, music, and other bohemian vocations count as their primary jobs. No one doubts the bohemian bona fides of New Orleans, where many pursue artistic creativity outside of their primary occupation. Memphis (another place with a storied music history), Birmingham, Houston, Louisville, San Antonio (Cowen's hunch was right), Charlotte, and Jacksonville round out the bottom 10 large metros. Cleveland, Sacramento, Dallas, Buffalo, Denver, Virginia Beach, Baltimore, and Columbus, Ohio and Edmonton in Canada all have Boho Index scores less than the North American norm. Austin performs worse than might be expected, with a Boho Index score of .9 just behind Tampa, Detroit, and St. Louis. That said, the least bohemian places in the United States and Canada are all very small metros in states like Michigan, Georgia, Alabama, Arkansas, New Mexico, West Virginia, Louisiana, South Carolina, and Texas, whose Boho Index scores are miniscule compared to those for large metros.
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Old 06-10-2010, 02:11 PM
 
Location: New England & The Maritimes
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No seattle, portland?
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Old 06-10-2010, 03:15 PM
 
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Salt Lake City is more bohemian than New Orleans?? Really? Who's getting paid to be an artist in Utah? Am I missing something here....

I think the problem with surveys like this is that they look at a few data points to try to measure an abstract concept like "bohemian."

Bohemians can't have day jobs and be aspiring artists, writers, or musicians? I mean, I guess that explains why Portland isn't on the list---eveyone who works at coffee shop or tends bar is an aspiring filmaker or musician---but try making a living off art in the Northwest--it's pretty hard.
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Old 06-10-2010, 06:07 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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Uh no, this list seems way off.

Portland and Seattle are the heaviest contenders. Followed by San Francisco and New Orleans. On a smaller scale Boulder CO, Cambridge MA, Austin TX, Key West, Provincetown Mass, the whole state of Vermont (especially Burlington), Asheville NC, and Eugene OR

Is there something happening in Salt Lame City that I don't know about? Granted the gorgeous mountain setting is certainly inspiring and could pull that kind of draw but the city itself seemed very vanilla to me. Boulder, CO is 20 times more bohemian than SLC. Maybe Park City on the outskirts was factored in? Beats me.

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Old 06-10-2010, 06:30 PM
 
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Uh no, this list seems way off.

Portland and Seattle are the heaviest contenders. Folowed by San Francisco and New Orleans. On a smaller scale Boulder CO, Cambridge MA, Austin TX, Key West, Provincetown Mass, the whole state of Vermont (especially Burlington), Asheville NC, and Eugene OR

Is there something happening in Salt Lame City that I don't know about? Granted the gorgeous mountain setting is certainly inspiring and could pull that kind of draw but the city itself seemed very vanilla to me. Boulder, CO is 20 times more bohemian than SLC. Maybe Park City on the outskirts was factored in? Beats me.

Maybe they count all the Mormon Christian rock musicians in SLC as people employed as "bohemians."
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Old 06-10-2010, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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No seattle, portland?
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Uh no, this list seems way off.

Portland and Seattle are the heaviest contenders. Followed by San Francisco and New Orleans. On a smaller scale Boulder CO, Cambridge MA, Austin TX, Key West, Provincetown Mass, the whole state of Vermont (especially Burlington), Asheville NC, and Eugene OR

Is there something happening in Salt Lame City that I don't know about? Granted the gorgeous mountain setting is certainly inspiring and could pull that kind of draw but the city itself seemed very vanilla to me. Boulder, CO is 20 times more bohemian than SLC. Maybe Park City on the outskirts was factored in? Beats me.
bohemian ≠ hipster
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Old 06-10-2010, 09:49 PM
 
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Uh no, this list seems way off.

Portland and Seattle are the heaviest contenders. Followed by San Francisco and New Orleans. On a smaller scale Boulder CO, Cambridge MA, Austin TX, Key West, Provincetown Mass, the whole state of Vermont (especially Burlington), Asheville NC, and Eugene OR

Is there something happening in Salt Lame City that I don't know about? Granted the gorgeous mountain setting is certainly inspiring and could pull that kind of draw but the city itself seemed very vanilla to me. Boulder, CO is 20 times more bohemian than SLC. Maybe Park City on the outskirts was factored in? Beats me.
I agree this list if waaaay off. It might be one of the worst lists Ive ever seen. (Las Vegas is the least Bohemian city I could ever fathom. The fact that it scores reasonably destroys every shred of credibility)

But Seattle and Portland should not be the heaviest contenders. Top 10, sure, top 5--maybe

But NYC, San Francisco, Montreal, and several others offer a more Bohemian atmosphere, with much greater depth.
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Old 06-10-2010, 09:54 PM
 
Location: USA
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The list seems really inaccurate to have NewOrleans in the bottom of Bohemianism. There are many many people there who do that Bohemian thing. Real nonsense list.
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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bohemian ≠ hipster
Agreed. True bohemianism fell of at the end of the 90's. After that it was packaged into a subculture and the hipster was created. This was likely a result of the information age created via the internet. Hipsters are basically yuppies with avant-garde tastes, but they are not bohemians.

As far as this list goes, it does not make much sense to me.
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:31 PM
 
Location: 30-40°N 90-100°W
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This list does seem odd. I don't think having arts and music as your primary job necessarily makes one bohemian. If it did then plenty of Catholic monks, Mormon church singers, and the most conservative of composers would be "bohemian" and that doesn't really sound right.
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