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View Poll Results: what are the second tier southern metros
Austin 103 42.39%
Charlotte 136 55.97%
New Orleans 97 39.92%
Raleigh 55 22.63%
Nashville 91 37.45%
Memphis 45 18.52%
Tampa 86 35.39%
Orlando 79 32.51%
Jacksonville 33 13.58%
Richmond 41 16.87%
Virginia Beach-Norfolk 35 14.40%
Louisville 39 16.05%
San Antonio 83 34.16%
other, did I leave the other important one out? 11 4.53%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 243. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-24-2010, 07:27 AM
 
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Whe all know the Big 4 of the South: Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, and Miami. There may be a debate about which is the top dog, but it is undisputable they are the elite of the South? But what cities pick up their slack? What is the next group of Southern metros that are important to the region, nation, and some if not major international influence? Include these factors as well as economic, political, and social clout. Historical and cultural significance should also be included. Oh and have fun deciding what ammenities to include, you know how we Southerners roll.

Here are the cities/metros to decide between, vote for 5:
Charlotte
Raleigh
Memphis
Nashville
Tampa
Orlando
Jacksonville
New Orleans
San Antonio
Austin
Richmond
Virginia Beach-Norfolk
Louisville

I'll say the top 6-8 without a doubt should be second tier Southern metros. I'll provide my methodology later.
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Old 06-24-2010, 11:50 AM
 
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The methodology for picking these cities is that all of them have metro areas over 1 million, a GDP above $50 billion, and are leading cities for niche industries. Most are the largest in their state or have significant influence in their state. These are also cities that historically have been Southern jewels or have recently became jewels. Birmingham was left out due to the amount of competition it would face; I didn't see it beating most of these cities out.
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Old 06-24-2010, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex
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Austin, Charlotte, San Antonio, Tampa, and Orlando
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Old 06-24-2010, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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My top 5 would be:

1. Charlotte
2. New Orleans
3. Orlando
4. Tampa
5. San Antonio


I don't think Raleigh by itself is a tier 2 city, but once you throw in the whole area. It's a different story.
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Old 06-24-2010, 12:05 PM
 
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My top 5 would be:

1. Charlotte
2. New Orleans
3. Orlando
4. Tampa
5. San Antonio


I don't think Raleigh by itself is a tier 2 city, but once you throw in the whole area. It's a different story.
Throw in the whole are. Raleigh-Durham is one area, the main economic engine lies in both counties. That being said, the area didn't make my top 5 because it lacks significant cultural contrubutions like NOLA. Plus Hampton Roads port was too huge for me to turn down.
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Old 06-24-2010, 12:14 PM
 
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Charlotte
Nashville
Tampa


While RDU might have impressive 2nd-tier numbers, something about that area will never blend with the word "metro" for me (or others, based on current voting). I'm a native North Carolinian and know plenty about it.
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Old 06-24-2010, 06:26 PM
 
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It seems that Charlotte, Austin, and New Orleans lead the pack followed by San Antonio. Tampa and Orlando are after that rounding up the top 6. It gets tighter after that.
1. Charlotte
2. Austin and New Orleans
4. San Antonio
5. Tampa and Orlando
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:57 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Throw in the whole are. Raleigh-Durham is one area, the main economic engine lies in both counties. That being said, the area didn't make my top 5 because it lacks significant cultural contrubutions like NOLA. Plus Hampton Roads port was too huge for me to turn down.
It didn't make your list because you are from Charlotte. just sayin'...
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Old 06-25-2010, 09:19 AM
 
Location: metro ATL
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Where's Baltimore and OKC?

You know it's going to come up sooner or later, might as well go ahead and get it out of the way, LOL.
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Old 06-25-2010, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Orlando Metro Area
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Some of those choices are a little small/non-principle city enough to even call 2nd tier IMHO.

I'd almost call the ones like Raleigh, Louisville, Richmond, Jacksonville, and Memphis 3rd tier due to metro populations being only slightly over 1 million. Nashville, VA Beach and Austin are all very borderline to me as they do have at least 1.5 million in the metro.

Austin is probably the biggest feeling of those three and should probably be considered a 2nd tier minus because it lacks any pro sport.

New Orleans is in a class of it's own, big city, small metro.

IDK, just some thoughts.
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