Battle of the Bowl Stadium: Cotton Bowl vs Rose Bowl (compared, bigger)

[UTHORNS96]

Originally Posted by OmShahi

I'm going to get shot by the years end. These guys go hardcore Orange pride there.

My license plate in the front of my car has a Michigan Wolverines student plate- someone left a post note on my car saying some nasty stuff. So I decided to leave my car in Houston from there on out.

Haha, I like how people in Austin go like "eff the Cowboys & Texans" this is LONGHORN central! I laugh everytime and go like "Wolverines!- enough said".

Just to tick them off next school year, I might just get a Oklahoma University shirt and wear it every game day!

If you do that I will personally handle you

[UTHORNS96]

Originally Posted by Overcooked_Oatmeal

Thank you for that.

Part of it is me being obviously facetious. I know I wouldn't be where I am today without having to eat some humble pie and having to embrace maturity along the way. I guess I let my hair down a bit TOO much sometimes, but I say you're only as young or as old as you feel. Nice subtle way of trying to say you think I'm immature though. Well played son


Till we meet again. Back to cocktails!

I owe it all to you. After being on this forum with you for a while i've learned the art of the subtle insult well. If I ever get an award for this you'll certainly be in my acceptance speech.

[kidphilly]

Originally Posted by UTHORNS96

Michigan only has 3 consensus national championships. National championships are a crap shoot because a lot of schools claim as many as they want. UT could actually claim 7 if they wanted to but they only claim AP titles (and BCS titles now that the BCS is here). I also promise you that if you ask most hardcore college football fans about who is elite, Pitt and Minn wouldn't make the cut. Espescially not over Texas and Penn State. Their titles all came before the modern era, neither school has been a true powerhouse for years though. A better way to measure all time great programs is by total wins and winning percentage. It's pure numbers and you don't have the uncertainty of the Pre-BCS polls confusing things.

1. Michigan: 877-304-38
2. Texas: 845-321-34
3. Notre Dame: 837-291-42
4. Nebraska: 827-341-41
5. Ohio State: 819-308-53
6. Alabama: 813-316-43
7. Penn State 812-351-43
8. Oklahoma: 796-305-53
9. Tennessee: 783-333-55
10. USC: 774-307-54

Winningest College Football Programs - The 10 Winningest Programs in College Football History

This I agree with!

But Michigan deserves a place even if they can't practice now

This list with Florida and LSU would probably be the perfect list.

BTW 4 on your top ten list are in the Big Ten (12) now (actually 4 of the top 7)

And if ND ever gets smart it would be 5 of the top 7

I say expand to 14 with ND and the Horns - would be awesome

[UTHORNS96]

Getting back to the stadiums though, I know the rose bowl has more publicity (though not nearly as much more as a lot of people think. hardcore college football fans know and respect the cotton bowl), but it will never have as unique an atmosphere is the Cotton Bowl during the Red River Shootout. The stadium split half burnt orange and half crimson and cream, a carnival outside the staidum with food rides, food vendors trying to give you a heart attack, and Big Tex's voice booming over the fair grounds. The Rose just can't duplicate that. Not to mention the Cotton Bowl holds a great HBCU event with Prarie View and Grambling the week before the RRS usually.

[polo89]

Originally Posted by kidphilly

almost means no

Ten NCAA Football Teams - Most National Championships

Every college football season there are new teams that show great promise, often they even win the National Championship by the time the season is complete. These teams are not perennial football powerhouses, but they are solid football teams from quality universities. Though they make an occasional appearance in the season ending top ten rankings and occasionally win championships, the elite teams that continually win championships are the main focus of college football.
Let's take a look at the top ten NCAA Division I universities with the most National Championships since 1900:

#1 Notre Dame Fighting Irish - Though their last National Championship was more than twenty years ago, the Fighting Irish are still on top of the heap when it comes to the total amount of titles they've won. Their thirteen titles place them three ahead of the second place college and well ahead of the schools behind that. From the 1910's through the 1980's, the Notre Dame Fighting Irish were able to win at least one National Championship in every decade except the 1950's. In fact, in the 1940's alone they won the National Title on four different occasions.
#2 Alabama Crimson Tide - With twelve National Championships to their credit, the University of Alabama is one of only two colleges with double digit National Titles to their name. Most of their titles were won under the watch of their famous head coach Paul "Bear" Bryant.
#3 (Tie) USC Trojans - The University of Southern California has won nine National Championships, the first in 1931 and the last in 2004. The Trojans won three titles during the 1970's and then back-to-back titles in 2003 and 2004.
#3 (Tie) Michigan Wolverines - The Michigan Wolverines are one of the most storied football programs in all of college football. The Wolverines got off to a great start in the last century by winning the National Title in 1901, 1902, 1903, and 1904. Michigan won it's eighth title in 1948 and didn't follow it up with another one until almost fifty years later when they won their ninth in 1997.
#4 (Tie) Ohio State Buckeyes - The Ohio State Buckeyes have proven themselves year in and year out as one of the class teams in the Big 10. With seven National Championships won by the Buckeyes, Ohio State has seen it's fair share of success.
#4 (Tie) Oklahoma Sooners - One of the more dominant teams of the 1950's and then again the 1970's, the Oklahoma Sooners are one of the all-time great football programs in college football. With the exception of their last two National Titles that came in 1985 and 2000, the Sooners have seemed to win their championships in bunches. They won three titles in the 1950's (1950, 1955, and 1956) and then won back-to-back titles in 1974 and 1975.
#5 Minnesota Golden Gophers - The Minnesota Golden Gophers are the team in this list that usually surprises most casual college football fans. Minnesota has won six National Championships, though none since 1960. In fact, the Golden Gophers have one of the more impressive dynasty claims in that they won five National Titles in eight years from 1934 to 1941 (1934, 1935, 1936, 1940, and 1941).
#6 (Tie) Miami Hurricanes - The Hurricanes' inclusion on this list is really quite amazing as they did not win their first National Championship until 1983. In the next eighteen years they would add four more titles to achieve their current state of owning five National Championships.
#6 (Tie) Nebraska Cornhuskers - Similar to the University of Miami, the University of Nebraska had a late start when it came to accumulating their National Championships. They won their first one in 1970 as part of their back-to-back titles of 1970 and 1971. They then added three titles in four years when they won the National Championship in 1994, 1995, and 1997.
#6 (Tie) Pittsburgh Panthers - The University of Pittsburgh is another team that many would not expect to find on this list though they are the proud owners of five National Championships as well. The team earned their first four titles between 1910 and 1937 and didn't add the fifth one until 1976.

While other colleges routinely place high in the season ending rankings and win National Championships too, it is the dream of every college football fan that their team joins the ranks of the top ten title holders listed above. What universities are closest to joining that elite group? Here are the colleges that have all won four National Titles in Division I college football since 1900: LSU, Texas, Penn State, Princeton, and Harvard.

Notre Dame? There only held in high regard because of distant history, there like the New York Knicks of college football, only good when you look at there history. They haven't done anything of worth since the 80's. Notre Dame holds no weight south of Nebraska, or West of Kansas. Notre Dame is more of a Midwest, Northeast, fan base. The Sunbelt is all about Texas, USC, Florida, LSU, etc.

[UTHORNS96]

Originally Posted by kidphilly

This I agree with!

But Michigan deserves a place even if they can't practice now

This list with Florida and LSU would probably be the perfect list.

BTW 4 on your top ten list are in the Big Ten (12) now (actually 4 of the top 7)

And if ND ever gets smart it would be 5 of the top 7

I say expand to 14 with ND and the Horns - would be awesome

You don't know how much I wanted UT in the Big Ten this past time around and was so dissapointed.

Trips to South Bend, Columbus, and Ann Arbor would be fun and having them come here even better. Not to mention better competition. Hopefully this watered down Big 12 won't last much longer.

[polo89]

Originally Posted by UTHORNS96

You don't know how much I wanted UT in the Big Ten this past time around and was so dissapointed.

Trips to South Bend, Columbus, and Ann Arbor would be fun and having them come here even better. Not to mention better competition. Hopefully this watered down Big 12 won't last much longer.

I wanted UT in the PAC-10.

[kidphilly]

Originally Posted by UTHORNS96

You don't know how much I wanted UT in the Big Ten this past time around and was so dissapointed.

Trips to South Bend, Columbus, and Ann Arbor would be fun and having them come here even better. Not to mention better competition. Hopefully this watered down Big 12 won't last much longer.

We would love to have you in Happy Valley too!

Plus from a media and marketing standpoint the texas market would be huge; you can keep the red river classic out of conferance

[UTHORNS96]

Originally Posted by polo89

I wanted UT in the PAC-10.

Pac ten would have been better than what we have now, but they lack the tradition of the Big-10. Still, I wouldn't have minded the Pac-10 one bit. Get a little rivalry with USC going and i'd be good.

[californio sur]

Originally Posted by kidphilly

almost means no

Ten NCAA Football Teams - Most National Championships

#3 (Tie) USC Trojans - The University of Southern California has won nine National Championships, the first in 1931 and the last in 2004. The Trojans won three titles during the 1970's and then back-to-back titles in 2003 and 2004..

Thanks for bumming me out since USC has to give back trophies and will be suspended for several years!