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View Poll Results: Who does Philadelphia share more similarities with?
New York City 73 91.25%
Chicago 7 8.75%
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Old 07-14-2010, 09:06 AM
 
Location: The City
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But how much of Chicago actually looks like this? I feel like Chicago is largely single-family homes with yards pushed back a good distance from the street and small apartment buildings sprinkled in. There are a few blocks like the ones you posted, but those seem to be in the minority in Chicago. It's almost like when people post pictures of the few brownstones we have in Philadelphia, which lead some people to believe that the city looks that way, when most of the houses really look like the tacky awning-covered homes you see in West Philly and the Northeast. For example, if I choose three random locations on the South Side, here is what I get:

South Side
Chicago, IL - Google Maps

West Side
Chicago, IL - Google Maps

North Side
Chicago, IL - Google Maps

I am not that familiar with the city, so I just chose three random locations on the map. I understand that it's a big city with a diverse housing stock, but my point is that really dense neighborhoods (going by appearance anyway) seem to be less rare in Chicago than they are in Philadelphia.

Actually many neighborhoods in Chicago look like grapicos pictures, Chicago is larger as a city and does have the singles you reference but also many many neighborhoods of the other
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Old 07-14-2010, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Italians comprise for the highest numbers in the metro, but in terms of the city population, it looks as if it would fit anywhere in the carribbean or central america.
The same is pretty much true of Philadelphia. I think Philly may be even more Italian than NYC in terms of percentages, but most of our Italians left the city in a mass exodus by the early 90s. Most people think of West Philly as a black section of the city, but much of West and Southwest were Italian just 20 to 30 years ago.
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Old 07-14-2010, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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The same is pretty much true of Philadelphia. I think Philly may be even more Italian than NYC in terms of percentages
New York City CSA 2008 Estimates: 22,154,752
Italian: 3,477,894 (15.7%)

Philadelphia CSA 2008 Estimates: 6,398,896
Italian: 910,148 (14.2%)

New York City MSA 2008 Estimates: 19,006,798
Italian: 2,843,198 (15.00%)

Philadelphia MSA 2008 Estimates: 5,838,471
Italian: 843,080 (14.4%)

New York City 2008 Estimates: 8,363,710
Italian: 697,313 (8.3%)

Philadelphia 2008 Estimates:
1,447,395
Italian: 125,114 (8.6%)
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Old 07-14-2010, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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I wonder what the percentages for Boston would be, probably around the same?
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Old 07-14-2010, 09:29 AM
 
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New York City CSA 2008 Estimates: 22,154,752
Italian: 3,477,894 (15.7%)

Philadelphia CSA 2008 Estimates: 6,398,896
Italian: 910,148 (14.2%)

New York City MSA 2008 Estimates: 19,006,798
Italian: 2,843,198 (15.00%)

Philadelphia MSA 2008 Estimates: 5,838,471
Italian: 843,080 (14.4%)

New York City 2008 Estimates: 8,363,710
Italian: 697,313 (8.3%)

Philadelphia 2008 Estimates:
1,447,395
Italian: 125,114 (8.6%)

Whats weird is that the Italian population based on this is roughly half that of the Irish, yet the Italian culture seems to make a stronger imprint on the feel of the city
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Old 07-14-2010, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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Whats weird is that the Italian population based on this is roughly half that of the Irish, yet the Italian culture seems to make a stronger imprint on the feel of the city
30% of NYC is irish?
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Old 07-14-2010, 09:33 AM
 
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30% of NYC is irish?

No I was discussing Philly, about 23%
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Old 07-14-2010, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Actually many neighborhoods in Chicago look like grapicos pictures, Chicago is larger as a city and does have the singles you reference but also many many neighborhoods of the other
This I understand. But it seems that the majority of Chicago's neighborhoods are not that compact. I didn't know this until I stayed with a friend from Chicago and his whole neighborhood looked like suburban Maryland. There are suburban looking areas of Philadelphia as well, but nothing like that.

You can go deep into Chestnut Hill:
philadelphia, pa - Google Maps

Academy Road in the NE:
philadelphia, pa - Google Maps

Near Cottman and Torresdale:
philadelphia, pa - Google Maps

There are some spacious areas of Philadelphia, but they look more like Queens than Maryland.
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Old 07-14-2010, 09:37 AM
 
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The Irish have heavily impacted Boston though, despite having a significant Italian population as well so it's shifty.
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Old 07-14-2010, 09:38 AM
 
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This I understand. But it seems that the majority of Chicago's neighborhoods are not that compact. I didn't know this until I stayed with a friend from Chicago and his whole neighborhood looked like suburban Maryland. There are suburban looking areas of Philadelphia as well, but nothing like that.

You can go deep into Chestnut Hill:
philadelphia, pa - Google Maps

Academy Road in the NE:
philadelphia, pa - Google Maps

Near Cottman and Torresdale:
philadelphia, pa - Google Maps

There are some spacious areas of Philadelphia, but they look more like Queens than Maryland.

Agree but remember Chicago covers roughly twice the space and is slightly higher density overall. There are at least (likely more) as many dense neighborhoods in Chicago when compared to Philly, out toward Ohare it looks like the far NE or even Somerton in Bucks county
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