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When you hear the typical "but the sunbelt is sprawled" argument, is that supposed to be offensive? Is everything outside the sunbelt one huge mega urban city and we just don't get it? lol
I honestly think people in these "urban" cities think we are jealous of their lifestyles or something. I really don't understand the sprawl comments that are meant to be hurtful or to put us in our place. Yes the urban footprint of most sunbelt cities sprawls, so what? I know I'd much rather get in my air conditioned car to go somewhere than to walk blocks to run errands in this heat. Also, AMERICA IS SPRAWLED. Every city has a dense center core with sprawl that goes outward. Anything built after WWII was built with the car in mind. Is the car the #1 form of transportation in our world in 2010? Yes it is. Is living in an urban area that is car friendly a bad thing? No. Are there growing transit options in most sunbelt cities for those who don't have a car? Of course. These "urban" cities in the north were designed for a late 19th, early 20th century world. Is that considered modern living? Absolutely not. Being in an urban area that allows for all means of travel is most convenient for todays busy lifestyle. Having this available, coupled with low cost of living creates a great quality of life and that is why the sunbelt is booming. So the derogatory sprawl comments are not offensive, it just makes people look silly when they throw them out there.
Truth spoken!
I know, at least in Oklahoma, we could care less what outsiders think about the so-called "sprawl" of our cities.
I know, at least in Oklahoma, we could care less what outsiders think about the so-called "sprawl" of our cities.
As usual you are correct Bass&Catfish. Personally, I'd rather have a little sprawl, than be crammed on top of each other like a bunch of sardines. I enjoy my little neighborhood full of great big lots.
As usual you are correct Bass&Catfish. Personally, I'd rather have a little sprawl, than be crammed on top of each other like a bunch of sardines. I enjoy my little neighborhood full of great big lots.
Going from Dallas to Arlington, isnt much of a difference. From Arlington to Ft Worth is like going to a whole other place. Its hard to explain. If you are not from the DFW area it is probably hard to believe, but the two cities are totally different and thats what makes having them next to each other so great. When I go to Ft Worth its like going on vacation to completely different state.
This is so true. You can notice it going along I-20 or especially 183. It just "feels" different. Fort Worth doesn't even get as much rain as the Dallas side, I don't think, so the ground looks a little browner.
No that's not why. They have a higher density because that's the way they decided to build their city. Not to mention there are geographic restrictions for both LA and SF. This is why they have greater density than NY and SF. It will come a time when DFW and Houston will stop sprawling and still grow.
one thing I dont like about the San Antonio-Austin area is that there are Chilis,Lowes,Home Depots,Petcos,Targets, and Best Buy's,Ross's and Marshall's everywhere here, sprawling all the way from San Antonio to Austin, they sure love their new modern strip malls.
Here are some major projects in OKC (MAPS 3 passed). Compare it to Ft. Worth. Many not listed...too lazy. OKC differs from FTD by having more historical neighborhoods that add a lot to the quality of life. I think OKC probably has more character.
oh ya....
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Here are some major projects in OKC (MAPS 3 passed). Compare it to Ft. Worth. Many not listed...too lazy. OKC differs from FTD by having more historical neighborhoods that add a lot to the quality of life. I think OKC probably has more character.
nice list. thank you.i was just throwing out whats happening in okc-no need to be snippy. after looking it over.... ft. worth and okc are similar in future development but okc probably has the edge. okc also has more historical redevelopment going on. peace
I agree. I believe Oklahoma City has the edge over Fort Worth, even if it's just a slight edge.
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