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Old 07-23-2010, 03:35 PM
 
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No it isnt, Manhattan, Bronx and Brooklyn are all denser, Queens is on par and Staten Island is god know what
He was probably saying that the density of Hoboken is higher than the density of ALL of NYC - not NYC broken up into sections.
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Old 07-23-2010, 03:39 PM
 
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And if I took the most dense 100 sq. mi. core area of the Twin Cities we STILL would have more density than a similar sample for Atlanta. That 100 sq. mi. example I gave you of the Twin Cities are the city boundaries only. You'll never hear me touting how "dense" Minneapolis is, not on this forum.....but I'll gladly mention it just to emphasize how NOT dense Atlanta is, just to make the point.
So exactly how NOT dense is Atlanta? Do you have some statistics to back up your claims or is it just garbage?
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Old 07-23-2010, 04:05 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, United States
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In theory, but not in real "on the ground terms". Like it's entirely possible to have a suburb that is higher density than the city. For instance (and this comes from another infamous thread on here ) Hoboken is denser than New York City. Now if you were to go up to an average New Yorker and tell them Hoboken was more urban and densely built up than New York City, they'd look at you stupid after they stopped laughing at you. Given that a suburb usually has much smaller city limits than a central city, it is possible to have a higher population density. That doesn't translate into a more highly urbanized and built up area. It's the fallacy of population density that people wont ever acknowledge on C-D.
See that brings of the discussion of how do we define density. Is it simply people per square mile or is it more complex than that? That's when war breaks out City-Data style because everyone and they're mama will have their own definition. It's just like being southern, nobody can agree what it is.

Just so you know, I fully agree with you though to an extent. It is possible to build a low density city with high density suburbs. I'm just not sure one exists.
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Old 07-23-2010, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Cleveland bound with MPLS in the rear-view
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So exactly how NOT dense is Atlanta? Do you have some statistics to back up your claims or is it just garbage?
Do the math yourself if you're so determined to know....

roughly 500,000 / 134 sq. mi is like 3,700 people per sq. mi.
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Old 07-23-2010, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex
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Who cares about density?
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Old 07-23-2010, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Cleveland bound with MPLS in the rear-view
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Who cares about density?
The OP of this thread, and apparently Atlanta forumers.
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Old 07-23-2010, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Cleveland bound with MPLS in the rear-view
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Dallas don't have 600 sq mi, but it never lost population.
Here's a perfect example, Grindin:

I guess Houston is the bigger city, with 601 sq. mi. Dallas has 342 (according to Wikipedia). I had to look that up or else my point wouldn't have valid I guess. I'm still not sure what your point was though -- that Minneapolis' population fell from the 1950's onwards and that somehow justifies....what?

I would just like to take this opportunity to remove myself from the thread so you guys can continue your conversation with yourselves. I didn't realize my comment would spark so much fury, and I am not trying to ruin this thread!
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Old 07-23-2010, 05:24 PM
 
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I live in Atlanta, and I've attested that the metro area seems to be the least dense of the three. There are pockets of density, but overall? No. If I were to go to a neighborhood in Roswell, Plano, or Sugar Land, I'd say that Roswell would be the least dense of the three.

I know certain posters like to lump all the Atlanta posters together about how sensitive and butthurt we supposedly get when people criticize our city, but not all of us do. I guess it's our turn now...
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Old 07-23-2010, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex
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Here's a perfect example, Grindin:

I guess Houston is the bigger city, with 601 sq. mi. Dallas has 342 (according to Wikipedia). I had to look that up or else my point wouldn't have valid I guess. I'm still not sure what your point was though -- that Minneapolis' population fell from the 1950's onwards and that somehow justifies....what?

I would just like to take this opportunity to remove myself from the thread so you guys can continue your conversation with yourselves. I didn't realize my comment would spark so much fury, and I am not trying to ruin this thread!
Good bye.
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Old 07-23-2010, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Austin/Houston
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I would just like to take this opportunity to remove myself from the thread so you guys can continue your conversation with yourselves. I didn't realize my comment would spark so much fury, and I am not trying to ruin this thread!
AWWWW! west36, don't go!!!
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