Georgia vs New Jersey (rates, Florida, living, cost)

[waronxmas]

Originally Posted by Awesome Danny

By the way lol, what is that thing in those pictures called? ^^

Something most Atlantans (Including me) would rather didn't exist.

It's the largest Bas Relief carving in the world

[Infamous92]

Originally Posted by kidphilly

Check out the new Revel Casino, just topped out, but still a little shorter than Goldman Sachs

Yeah they just have to finish the inside and other things now. I'm surprised it's that tall (700+ feet). AC needs more LV type casinos.

Atlantic City gives New Jersey an edge in the gambling category, I just realized that. Only state that can compare is Nevada. However Biloxi is popping too from what I've seen (but on a smaller scale), guess it can count as one of GA's nearby locations.

[K.O.N.Y]

Originally Posted by 66nexus

Yeah...I know you would (so I can bring up NJ things and then you can talk about the Bronx, right?)

Why when the bronx is nyc. Im just asking how ny brings new jersey up to boost new york up?



[quote=Infamous92;15402222]I wasn't even talking about this thread (that doesn't even make sense since I would've contradicted myself), I'm not slow, I was referring to how people constantly shut out NJ like it's just there and has no real connection to NYC & Philly. That was one part of my post which had little/nothing to do with this comparison.


Like what makes an outerborough more tied to Manhattan than say Jersey City, a state boundary? The swamps in Southeast Queens or the forests in Staten Island are more related to The Heart of NYC than a city across the river from it? That's what I was saying.

Is this a serious question? Theres no such thing as an "outerborough" new york city is new york city whether your in brooklyn or top of the rock. City data is the first place where i heard the term "outer borough". I guess it comes from transplants/tourist who are infatuated with manhattan(and thats perfectly fine) but the bulk of new yorkers do not live in manhattan. The other four boroughs are intricate to the fabric and culture of the overall new york city outlook in alot of things. New yorkers dont find anything "new york" about new jersey. Its basically jerseyans who live "10 minutes" from manhattan or who has familyin/born in the bronx or brooklyn that impose that whole thing on the city. Its not the sentiments of the citys actual residents at all


And people do not constantly shut out new jersey. Nj constantly uses these city's as a leash when compared to states that have city's of their own

[darkone]

Originally Posted by waronxmas

This is an odd conclusion to come to when you juxtapose it against the fact that all the reasons you stated NJ wins is for being near other places that has great things that NJ doesn't have...

Originally Posted by waronxmas

For Georgia using your criteria

World-Class cities with first-rate museums? Nothing on the size of grandeur in NYC in Georgia, but this thread isn't about what NYC has. We have great ones right here.

Care to elaborate? I live in Atlanta and am not inspired by the World of Coke. The High is o.k. but nothing special.

Originally Posted by waronxmas

Atlantic Beaches? Uh, you do know Georgia is on the Atlantic coast, right?

Uh, yes I do in fact. That's why I stated that you can get to the Atlantic coast in ONE or TWO hours from most of NJ. That's not the case for the bulk of the GA population.

Shopping for the cheapest international or domestic flight?

Originally Posted by waronxmas

Why choose from others when we have the biggest on planet Earth?

Well, sometimes it would be nice to have some nearby airports to compare fares to - something called competition ....

Originally Posted by waronxmas

Want a weekend getaway to Boston or DC? How is this a bonus for NJ?

Why wouldn't it be a bonus for people in NJ? Not a fan of Boston and DC I take it ...

Originally Posted by waronxmas

Want Skiing during the winter? For Georgia, go to North Carolina....

Well for the south that is alright but doesn't stack up well with the northern hills during the real winters up there ...

Originally Posted by waronxmas

Anyway, not saying anything bad NJ but, it's really odd when people claim "well we're right next door to" as something that boosts them up. Yeah, it's nice and all but you don't get claim it since it isn't in NJ. That's like me saying I've got a better car than you (when I have a beat up Camry) because my neighbor has a Ferrari.

Well, no - I'm saying that I can drive my Camry and my neighbor has a Ferrari which he allows me to drive now and then.

[66nexus]

Originally Posted by K.O.N.Y

Why when the bronx is nyc. Im just asking how ny brings new jersey up to boost new york up?


Is this a serious question? Theres no such thing as an "outerborough" new york city is new york city whether your in brooklyn or top of the rock. City data is the first place where i heard the term "outer borough". I guess it comes from transplants/tourist who are infatuated with manhattan(and thats perfectly fine) but the bulk of new yorkers do not live in manhattan. The other four boroughs are intricate to the fabric and culture of the overall new york city outlook in alot of things. New yorkers dont find anything "new york" about new jersey. Its basically jerseyans who live "10 minutes" from manhattan or who has familyin/born in the bronx or brooklyn that impose that whole thing on the city. Its not the sentiments of the citys actual residents at all

My statement was directed at your tendency to turn a NJ vs.__ thread into a NJ vs. NY thread (and to answer your question sea/rail transport/traffic and sports all come to mind. The SuperBowl's coming to NYC!)

PS, the term 'outer-boroughs' is actually a NY term for all NYC turf that's not Manhattan.

[Infamous92]

Originally Posted by K.O.N.Y

Why when the bronx is nyc. Im just asking how ny brings new jersey up to boost new york up?

That's exactly what I'm talking about, there's no wall in the Hudson River or the Delaware River. This idea that NJ just leaches of off NYC/Philly is ludicrous, where would those cities be if there's was just a huge blank space in place of NJ, like come on now. SoNY & NoNJ are ONE Metro, united and every other synonym for it. The Port Authority of NY and NJ is a Bi-State agency as well.

No one really compares areas to the T in real life, so this must be a CD thing you're talking about (I happen to not see it either way however). This is too off topic, NYC & Philly are nearby pluses but this is GA vs NJ. They can be used but they shouldn't be part of the main discussion, same with GA.

[K.O.N.Y]

Originally Posted by 66nexus

My statement was directed at your tendency to turn a NJ vs.__ thread into a NJ vs. NY thread (and to answer your question sea/rail transport/traffic and sports all come to mind. The SuperBowl's coming to NYC!)

PS, the term 'outer-boroughs' is actually a NY term for all NYC turf that's not Manhattan.

How does rail effect those living in new york though. It may get jerseyans back and forth but not new yorkers

I'll give you the GIANTS but in all seriousness its nothing more than just a sweet deal for new york. We put our name on a team without having to deal with the cost,traffic etc. New jersey gets nothing out of the deal. In what could have been a New Jersey superbowl will just be looked at as just a nyc superbowl.

Politics,egos and money are the reasons why the giants and jets are in nj. Not because where all "one metro". Ny tried to build them in the city and failed.

Originally Posted by Infamous92

That's exactly what I'm talking about, there's no wall in the Hudson River or the Delaware River. This idea that NJ just leaches of off NYC/Philly is ludicrous, where would those cities be if there's was just a huge blank space in place of NJ, like come on now. SoNY & NoNJ are ONE Metro, united and every other synonym for it. The Port Authority of NY and NJ is a Bi-State agency as well.

I dont know how i can stress this enough. But this whole metro/tristate is really only stressed by new jerseyans and connecticutans. New york, new jersey ct work together but this one whole family thing is ridiculous

[66nexus]

Originally Posted by K.O.N.Y

How does rail effect those living in new york though. It may get jerseyans back and forth but not new yorkers

I'll give you the GIANTS but in all seriousness its nothing more than just a sweet deal for new york. We put our name on a team without having to deal with the cost,traffic etc. New jersey gets nothing out of the deal. In what could have been a New Jersey superbowl will just be looked at as just a nyc superbowl.

Politics,egos and money are the reasons why the giants and jets are in nj. Not because where all "one metro". Ny tried to build them in the city and failed.

Not passenger rail, freight rail. And you're wrong, NJ gets ALL the tax monies/fares etc generated by team revenue. NY gets NOTHING but name association via media. Sweet deal? If you say so.

And metro location has everything to do w/ it, which is why you wouldn't even see the Giants/Jets play in SJersey.

[TANaples]

Originally Posted by K.O.N.Y

How does rail effect those living in new york though. It may get jerseyans back and forth but not new yorkers

I'll give you the GIANTS but in all seriousness its nothing more than just a sweet deal for new york. We put our name on a team without having to deal with the cost,traffic etc. New jersey gets nothing out of the deal. In what could have been a New Jersey superbowl will just be looked at as just a nyc superbowl.

Politics,egos and money are the reasons why the giants and jets are in nj. Not because where all "one metro". Ny tried to build them in the city and failed.





I dont know how i can stress this enough. But this whole metro/tristate is really only stressed by new jerseyans and connecticutans. New york, new jersey ct work together but this one whole family thing is ridiculous

and you will see how much of a connection there is between NY/NJ/Ct, and even Pa.

[Infamous92]

Originally Posted by K.O.N.Y

How does rail effect those living in new york though. It may get jerseyans back and forth but not new yorkers

I'll give you the GIANTS but in all seriousness its nothing more than just a sweet deal for new york. We put our name on a team without having to deal with the cost,traffic etc. New jersey gets nothing out of the deal. In what could have been a New Jersey superbowl will just be looked at as just a nyc superbowl.

Politics,egos and money are the reasons why the giants and jets are in nj. Not because where all "one metro". Ny tried to build them in the city and failed.





I dont know how i can stress this enough. But this whole metro/tristate is really only stressed by new jerseyans and connecticutans. New york, new jersey ct work together but this one whole family thing is ridiculous

Do you hear yourself?

And other than egos does it make a difference if it's called "NJ superbowl" or NYC superbowl", it's still in NJ both can benefit from it, there's gonna be traffic in both regardless...hold up it's not even called "(insert city name) Superbowl" it's more like Superbowl XVIII. You're just trying to strike a nerve with that first paragraph to get NJians riled up so this can become another one of your NY vs NJ threads.

How NY got deeply involved in this comparison is beyond me.

I'm staying on topic from this post on, next up is transportation within the respective states.