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View Poll Results: Will New York and Phiily have one combine CSA by the 2030 census? ( 20 years from now)
Yes 45 30.00%
No 76 50.67%
Maybe 29 19.33%
Voters: 150. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-09-2010, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Denver
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If to Boston, take the Tapanzee or even Newburgh to avoid the xbronx
Ya I was actually returning from Lambertville/New Hope, so I should have just taken I-287 up to the Mass Pike, but whatever...I guess you live and you learn!
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Old 08-09-2010, 03:55 PM
 
Location: New York
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Maybe, we drove between the 2 one night, we reached Trenton then we were on US-1, it was just like a wide suburban street with red lights, stores (a ton of car dealerships) & houses. I was wondering when we where gonna reach the highway then like 60 minutes later there's signs for the bridge. The suburbs don't end, never saw anything like that in my life.

I see it as one big CSA but separate MSA's (is that how it works?), I don't know which is which.
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Old 08-09-2010, 04:04 PM
 
Location: The City
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No, but for several reasons.

For one they won't ever meet the current CSA threshold from core to core.

Secondly, it would be a real shame to happen. Philly and NYC should (and deserve) to be separate metros.

Besides, any combined NYC/Philly interaction should be continued to be viewed in the larger context of the BosWash Megalopolis. The same factors apply to Boston, Baltimore and DC.

War - you do realize that only two counties have to meet the 15% right??????????????????????????

Do you think 15% of balt go to DC or vice versus, I'll help you NOOOOOOOO


dude, I am telling you the differance in this census will be a few thousand out of the 30 million either way.

Do me a favor and please read the criteria, you make this false claim time after time

They will always be seperate MSA regardless, to be joined that way all counties would have to maintain 25% commuter rates to NYC, the core, again please read the criteria
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Old 08-09-2010, 04:06 PM
 
Location: The City
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Ya I was actually returning from Lambertville/New Hope, so I should have just taken I-287 up to the Mass Pike, but whatever...I guess you live and you learn!

Ah yes, could have went up 202 to bridgewater and 287, next time, you owe me a beer anyway

Ah didnt know New Hope, cool little town and two breweries actually
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Old 08-09-2010, 04:09 PM
 
Location: The City
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Maybe, we drove between the 2 one night, we reached Trenton then we were on US-1, it was just like a wide suburban street with red lights, stores (a ton of car dealerships) & houses. I was wondering when we where gonna reach the highway then like 60 minutes later there's signs for the bridge. The suburbs don't end, never saw anything like that in my life.

I see it as one big CSA but separate MSA's (is that how it works?), I don't know which is which.

This I agree, the turnpike actually bypasses the developed area but route 1 from Chester county PA to Ct is all continuously developed
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Old 08-09-2010, 08:28 PM
 
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You have to use the Betsy Ross, saves at least ten minutes, now she is fast
It will be even faster if and when they get the missing ramps from the PA turnpike to 95 put in place...that way you can take exit 6 instead of 4 and its all highway no stopping to anywhere in Philly....I would be able to do NYC to Philly in 1:15 mins barring no traffic at the Lincoln Tunnel......at night I do 90 down the entire NJT
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Old 08-09-2010, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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If they have built a train that travels at 130 MPH betwen downtown Philly and Manhattan, its possible.

Otherwise no.
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Old 08-09-2010, 09:02 PM
 
Location: New York
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If they have built a train that travels at 130 MPH betwen downtown Philly and Manhattan, its possible.

Otherwise no.
Isn't that the Acela?
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Old 08-09-2010, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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The Acela's highest possible speed is 150 mph but I do not think the train reaches that very often. The Acela goes from Philadelphia's 30th Street to New York's Penn Station in 70 Minutes.
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Old 08-09-2010, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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The Acela's highest possible speed is 150 mph but I do not think the train reaches that very often. The Acela goes from Philadelphia's 30th Street to New York's Penn Station in 70 Minutes.
True. The Acela trains are capable of going even faster than 150, but the FRA limits the operating speed. Between Philly and NYC Acela maxes out at 135 through parts of NJ. It slows down on the approaches to each city because of train congestion and old infrastructure that prohibits fast speeds.

As for the two CSAs merging/combining. Eh, it's possible.
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