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Thank you thank you thank you! You hit it on the head so much I had to say it 3 times lol. Trust hard times aren't going to make a Detroit person committ suicide smh. Why should we when we could just move??? Duh
i know man i been to a lot of ghettos and we have a bunch here in nyc so i know what goes through the mind of a lot of ghetto folk. people in the ghetto dont commit suicide when their ex boy friend bobby leaves town and goes to a city 5 miles away. LOL.
LMAO! last time I checked smoking weed is not killing by the droves. There aren't as many people in Detroit doing extra heavy drugs as people would like to think. Hence why so many drug dealers from here are back and forth between here and the south. Hope you all don't think Big Meech was the only one shooting people??? lol there are a lot of murders because of the drug game but regualr everyday people aren't going around shooting each other. Word of advice step away from the TV
didnt big meech do most of his work in atlanta? i just know he from detroit aint think he put in work in detroit though.
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i know man i been to a lot of ghettos and we have a bunch here in nyc so i know what goes through the mind of a lot of ghetto folk. people in the ghetto dont commit suicide when their ex boy friend bobby leaves town and goes to a city 5 miles away. LOL.
exactly! Even people who don't live in the "ghettos" here aren't going to kill themselves over say being laid off and loosing a house in Boston Edison neighborhood that probably was once $1 million dollars before the housing slump. EVERYONE can go through hard times. If thats the case its ppl in other states loosing homes worth more and getting laid off from jobs as well. Just pick yourself up wether you live in the ghetto or not and keep it moving. IDK if its me but my life is more valuable than any material thing.
Some are mentioning the economy, but actually I think suicide rates are pretty often lower in poorer countries or places. People in the poorest of Muslim and Catholic countries often have very low suicide rates. Poor people sometimes have a stronger reliance on the community, which may mean stopping them from suicide, and a greater tendency to be influenced by religious rules on suicide.
Granted the highly Hispanic cities on the list are a mixed bag, but El Paso and Los Angeles look fairly low. Considering El Paso is low in violent crime as well maybe they, even though I think they are a fairly poor town, are doing something right. San Jose I think is the other "low violence" city on this low-suicide list.
Although it's not necessarily just religion and culture. I seem to recall unmarried men are more likely to commit suicide than most groups. Being an unmarried man I don't really agree this is because we're more depressed even if some studies say that. I think it's more that when you're an unmarried man there may not be anyone there to tell you to calm down or get help. (Not that that always work or that married people have no motivation to hide their distress from a spouse) So you might have more chances to do things that are "crazy fun" but also just crazy or suicidal. However I haven't checked the married statistics on these cities.
Other factors would be like the availability of psychiatrists or at least pharmacists. NYC, Baltimore, and Boston have a pretty high number of psychiatrists per-capita judging by what I found. Although I think there were cities with high rates of psychiatrists that didn't do so well.
It's a little bit strange, NYC is low but this city is pretty stressful no ?
And Miami surprises me too, because this city seems calm and quiet, and the weather is fantastic.
Thank you thank you thank you! You hit it on the head so much I had to say it 3 times lol. Trust hard times aren't going to make a Detroit person committ suicide smh. Why should we when we could just move??? Duh
By the end of the 1980's the Pittsburgh region had lost 150,000 jobs but ironically, the suicide rate was actually lower through that time period then crept back up in the 1990's. Lord knows, there are over 2,000 bridges here that people could have their pick of which bridge they wanted to jump off.
Maybe it was not as high during that time b/c everyone else was losing their jobs,too making it less an isolating experience,perhaps?
Suicide is a preventable death. The leading method is by firearms, not bridges. Sadly it's the 3rd leading cause of death in teenagers, and the rate is high in the elderly as well.
Detroit will be fine if you have support,prevention and intervention in place.
I would imagine that Las Vegas gets a bad rap on this list, not necessarily for the people that live there, but for the tourists who come to town and go crazy (gambling, drinking, drugs). I wonder if that's an impact, and if so, how much it's skewing the numbers.
The bottom 5 are Northern cities, but the cities right after those are warm weather Southern and Western cities for a while until you reach 27th Cleveland.
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I think geography has little to do with the topic. Seattle had a reputation for the highest rate for a number of years which was likely skewed by noteriety for cloudy weather and Kurt Cobain's infamous suicide. I lived in Seattle for 5 years and never met anyone who so much as even contemplated it. I'm willing to bet a number of the suicides in Las Vegas were people whom had resided there for less than a year or tourists, transitory people.
I lost a very close friend of mine to suicide a year ago here in Boston (among the lowest on the list, yes it happend here in Mass). It happend in the middle of summer so weather wasn't much of an issue. He lived in the suburbs, worked in IT and white collar work and then lost his job, struggled with past relationships and family, and alcoholism. I wish everyday there was something I could have done about it and it was one of the hardest grievences I've ever had to face. Unfortunately I was powerless, it had everything to do with his personal circumstances which isolated him and he didn't know how to ask for help. People are like iceburgs, you really only see about 10% of them at the surface.
This has changed my life forever and I would do just about anything to prevent it from happening to somebody I love ever again. I realize I'm not superhuman and can not force people to make or break decisions. It can also be very difficult to decipher whether one is actually helping the person or enabling somebody's self destruction when you care about somebody so much. However I look at the list and see very little relevance in the West having a 4% statisticle margin over the Northeast making one more prone to suicide. Especially when I lost somebody that fell into that supposed 8.1%, it go's a lot deeper than that folks.
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I think geography has little to do with the topic. Seattle had a reputation for the highest rate for a number of years which was likely skewed by noteriety for cloudy weather and Kurt Cobain's death. I lived in Seattle for 5 years and never met anyone who so much as even contemplated it. I'm willing to bet a number of the suicides in Las Vegas were people whom had resided there for less than a year or tourists, transitory people.
I lost a very close friend of mine to suicide a year ago here in Boston (among the lowest on the list, yes it happend here in Mass). It happend in the middle of summer so weather wasn't much of an issue. He lived in the suburbs, worked in IT and white collar work, struggled with past relationships and family, and alcoholism. I wish everyday there was something I could have done about it and it was one of the hardest grievences I've ever had to face. Unfortunately I was powerless, it had everything to do with his personal circumstances which isolated him and he didn't know how to ask for help. People are like iceburgs, you really only see about 10% of them at the surface.
This has changed my life forever and I would do just about anything to prevent it from happening to somebody I love ever again. I realize I'm not superhuman and can not force people to make or break decisions. It can also be very difficult to decipher whether one is actually helping or enabling somebody's self destruction when you care about somebody so much. However I look at the list and see very little relevance on where one lives making one prone to suicide. It go's a lot deeper than that folks.
Wow. Interesting.
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shooting people??? lol there are a lot of murders because of the drug game but regualr everyday people aren't going around shooting each other. Word of advice step away from the TV
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