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View Poll Results: Which is more urban and has more of a "big city" feel?
Houston 69 29.11%
Seattle 168 70.89%
Voters: 237. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-25-2010, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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I see more city lights in & around Houston than I do Seattle indicating a larger urbanized area.


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Old 08-25-2010, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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side by Side, Seattle's sky line probably looks impressive because few building are really tall so the short buildings make the skyline look fuller. Put next to the whoppers in Houston, and Seattle's buildings would look like midgets



 
Old 08-26-2010, 12:58 AM
 
Location: san francisco
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side by Side, Seattle's sky line probably looks impressive because few building are really tall so the short buildings make the skyline look fuller. Put next to the whoppers in Houston, and Seattle's buildings would look like midgets


i honestly think houston's skyline looks even better than Los Angeles.

well, Seattle's is very nice.... but I don't think it's any bigger.
 
Old 08-26-2010, 01:08 AM
 
Location: san francisco
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When I was in San Francisco I noticed that even though there was tons of more people per sq mile than Houston, I actually still felt that Houston was a bigger city. And I didn't even have to be in downtown to feel this. San Francisco might have looked bigger with all the people running around but because of it's small size altogether and the proximity of all the neighborhoods I simply did not feel that overwhelming feeling I get when I am in Houston.

I don't know.... maybe it's just me. But since we're talking about the "big city" feel I'd pick Houston.
 
Old 08-26-2010, 02:23 AM
 
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yeah buddy, keep posting pictures of a tiny area of Houston and act like it is the entire city.



Leave out the med center area, Greenway plaza, Uptown.....


who are you trying to convince anyway with those pictures. How can you tell which city feels bigger from a small snapshot?

look at the money coming from Houston and the money coming from Houston and you will feel which is bigger in a second.

What y'alls GMP is like 180B? Ours is like 405B?

No contest there
LOL so now you are pulling (inaccurate) economic numbers into this argument. Give it up bro. Those comparison pictures that Bill Loney posted tell the whole story.
 
Old 08-26-2010, 02:35 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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LOL so now you are pulling (inaccurate) economic numbers into this argument.
GDP Houston MSA: 403 Billion
Source: BEA : Something unexpected has occurred

GDP Seattle MSA: 218 Billion
Source: BEA : Something unexpected has occurred

EDIT: Just check it up on BEA.gov, I don't know why they aren't displaying my links properly but whatever, too tired to care. Good night!

PS- Seattle looks pretty baller, but you're chopping on Houston pointlessly, you should really let the posters from there make their case. This thread wasn't made by a Houstonian, would you not defend your city if someone made such a pointless thread? I haven't seen anyone from Houston say it is more urban. Then what is this 6-7 page long debate about, it should have been over long ago. Seattle is denser and by those definitions more urban, Houston is bigger, and it is rightfully so.

In 5,894 sq. mi. Seattle has 3,344,813. Seattle's entire MSA.
In 1,778 sq mi. Houston has 4,070,989. (Harris County, the county that Houston is located inside of) Just one county of Houston's MSA.
Source Seattle:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_metropolitan_area
Source Houston: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harris_County,_Texas

More information:
Harris County: 4,070,989 people (1,778 square miles total area)
Fort Bend County: 532,141 people (886 square miles total area)
Montgomery County: 447,718 people (1,077 square miles total area)
Galveston County: 283,987 people (873 square miles total area)

Total population: 5,334,835 people in 4,614 square miles of total area (includes water, forests, whatever) Oh and by the way, the counties I used for the population above touch/border each other, they aren't spread out across the MSA boundaries to prove a point. Lol, just thought I also clarify beforehand there before someone gets on that.

So thats 5,334,835 people in 4,614 square miles of total area of MSA Houston COMPARED TO 3,344,813 people in 5,894 square miles of total area in MSA Seattle.

Houston is larger than Seattle.

Urban Areas as of 2000:
Houston #10
Seattle #14
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...es_urban_areas

City of Seattle population & Square Miles: 83.87 sq mi and population of 617,000. Density = 7,356.62 person per square mile
City of Houston population & Square Miles: 579 square miles and a population of 2,257,000. Density = 3,898.10 people per square mile
- Houston's density & population within inner loop (loop 610) I calculated this myself as of 2008 estimates:
Inner Loop Houston: 521,761 (96.1037 square miles) = 5,379 people per square mile

Zip Codes within Inner Loop (23) 2008 Estimates:
-77002: 15,062
-77003: 10,421
-77004: 34,432
-77005: 25,083
-77006: 21,393
-77007: 25,499
-77008: 32,485
-77009: 48,035
-77010: 00,086
-77011: 26,128
-77012: 28,533
-77019: 17,727
-77020: 32,505
-77021: 27,382
-77023: 37,460
-77025: 26,727
-77026: 31,275
-77027: 16,114
-77029: 10,355
-77030: 12,449
-77046: 00,533
-77054: 09,439
-77098: 13,804
Total: 521,761 (96.1037 square miles) = 5,379 people per square mile
- Footnote: Zip Code cut offs have been calculated as well.

A picture of Inner Loop and the area within it:


City of Houston is not as dense as Seattle, but theres a lot of nitpicking and bias commentary going on in this thread, Houston is not the most urban city, not even a top 15 at that. I think people here get it, and if oblivious people didn't have to make such a pointless thread with such an obvious answer then we wouldn't be sitting here like old fools debating such irrelevant trash all day long. The answer is Seattle, it will be Seattle tomorrow and it will be Seattle this weekend. But a lot of you here are overplaying things, the most surface parking lots out of every downtown in America? WTF, that woman that claimed that has been proven time again she knows nothing outside of Chicago, she claims to live in Los Angeles but she has been proven like 64460435 times to not know even the basics about it. It has surface lots, yeah, but you're overplaying it.

Can everyone just chill out? (In young people talk that means relax, take it easy, stay calm) Because honestly, I go through this site on a day to day basis reading comments, to me it seems like a bunch of old people sitting on the internet in their living room, drinking coffee, and their face turning red when they get ticked off then knocking their cat off the table and responding. (not specifically to anyone in particular but the general vibe I get with majority of the posters here) Literally the image I get in my head with majority of you posters, rather annoying actually. Lets stick to the subject, I don't even know where skyline came into this.

Last edited by DANNYY; 08-26-2010 at 03:44 AM.. Reason: Done with additional information. And for future when I look back at this post: ROFLMFAO at the old people on this site. LOL!
 
Old 08-26-2010, 06:04 AM
 
Location: The City
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Nah they are in underground tunnels that runs throughout downtown. There is an underground world in downtown Houston with all the normal shops you'd found street level. I'm being serious.

To the OP: Seattle is definitely more urban overall but Houston has the "big city" feel. Outside of the downtown areas of Seattle, Houston looks and feels bigger. Bellevue seemed like a slightly more urban, smaller version of Uptown.

I think big metro is a better way to describe, semi-urban sprawl doesn't feel like a city, more like a very expansive suburban metro. I judge the "Big City" feel on the core and the energy level there. Houston has moderate energy for a vast distanse, maintaining this for a large distance like LA, just maybe not the same level of energy. It is huge in metro but somehow never feels like a "big city" to me, yes I know there are tall buildings and multiple clusters of them and a large population but most of the city itself seems indistinguishable from many suburbs in the US (Yes I know there are 27 skylines). But mostly Houston never really feels very urban or has the energy of many cities much smaller in metro in the core, nor the cohesion that drives this energy in many other places. To me the pockets that are removed from another feel like a suburban construct on a larger scale. Maybe it really is a hybrid, not really city not really suburbs
 
Old 08-26-2010, 07:25 AM
 
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Originally Posted by HtownLove View Post
yeah buddy, keep posting pictures of a tiny area of Houston and act like it is the entire city.



Leave out the med center area, Greenway plaza, Uptown.....


who are you trying to convince anyway with those pictures. How can you tell which city feels bigger from a small snapshot?
The post I was responding was this one...

Quote:
Originally Posted by dv1033


To the OP: Seattle is definitely more urban overall but Houston has the "big city" feel. Outside of the downtown areas of Seattle, Houston looks and feels bigger..
I simply showed a picture of the areas just outside the downtown area. Seattle sure looks and feels a lot more densely populated.

Feel free to add pics of Greenway Plaza and the Med Center with downtown in the background.

All you'll do is prove my point.
 
Old 08-26-2010, 07:29 AM
 
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look at the money coming from Houston and the money coming from Houston and you will feel which is bigger in a second.

What y'alls GMP is like 180B? Ours is like 405B?

No contest there
LOLOL Oh so instead of showing pictures that show that easily provable big city feel, you quote dollars? Thanks for playing "Really Bad Analogy"

Show me the pictures. (Yes the pun is intended)
 
Old 08-26-2010, 09:21 AM
 
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LOLOL Oh so instead of showing pictures that show that easily provable big city feel, you quote dollars? Thanks for playing "Really Bad Analogy"

Show me the pictures. (Yes the pun is intended)


You should have known that was going to come up.. How can u feel a GDP? ... Isn't this thread about which feels larger..
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