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Old 09-13-2010, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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The Chicago Council on Global Affairs has a hand in the rankings. I have a sinking feeling that this may have influenced Chicago's place on the list.

Chicago (#6) is a great city but it failed in its bid to host the Summer Olympics. Los Angeles (#7) has hosted the Summer Olympics TWO TIMES (1932 and 1984).

LA also outranks Chicago by GDP and Size.

This is just a list so it's not a big deal...but I am feeling a little cheated.
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Old 09-13-2010, 04:17 PM
 
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The Chicago Council on Global Affairs has a hand in the rankings. I have a sinking feeling that this may have influenced Chicago's place on the list.

Chicago (#6) is a great city but it failed in its bid to host the Summer Olympics. Los Angeles (#7) has hosted the Summer Olympics TWO TIMES (1932 and 1984).

LA also outranks Chicago by GDP and Size.

This is just a list so it's not a big deal...but I am feeling a little cheated.
Lets see here... you have a city that has a good economy then you have LA. You have a city with some of the best infrastructure in the world then you have LA. You think Olympics should be a weighted result to place a city higher, I guess by your logic LA > NYC in importance. I also guess Chicago recently overtaking LA in global cities and these rankings and their current economic conditions have nothing to do with these rankings. You have cities smaller than both and smaller GDP then both ranking higher than both.
LAs peer cities arent NYC, CHI, Boston, Philly, DC, SF, Houston, ATL, Dallas all those cities place emphasis on their economy and progression. LAs real peers should be Miami, Vegas, Orlando tourist traps and failed economies.

People from LA try to make that uncivilized pit out to be world class, go and take care of your illegal immigration problem first then come back to talk. K sparky?
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Old 09-14-2010, 08:38 AM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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The Chicago Council on Global Affairs has a hand in the rankings. I have a sinking feeling that this may have influenced Chicago's place on the list.

Chicago (#6) is a great city but it failed in its bid to host the Summer Olympics. Los Angeles (#7) has hosted the Summer Olympics TWO TIMES (1932 and 1984).

LA also outranks Chicago by GDP and Size.

This is just a list so it's not a big deal...but I am feeling a little cheated.
We are talking Foreign Policy, Chicago just has more of that going on. More key elements economics wise as well. I would say L.A. was probably over Chicago from about 85-2005 or so but since then Chicago has regained some of its stature, evened out, diversified, gentrified and beginning to attract lots of highly educated as well as keep some people from fleeing for the coasts. Again, we are talking currently, leading political influence, company relocations such as Boeing in early 2000's, while LA has lost some of its aerospace, buyouts of NYMEX by the CME, etc, etc,... not what was going on in the 80s and 90s. Even within it's own state, there has been somewhat of a power shift back to Northern California with San Francisco, San Jose, Sacramento gaining power. As well as wealth, the top 5 wealthiest counties in California are in the Bay Area.

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Old 09-14-2010, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Denver
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The Chicago Council on Global Affairs has a hand in the rankings. I have a sinking feeling that this may have influenced Chicago's place on the list.

Chicago (#6) is a great city but it failed in its bid to host the Summer Olympics. Los Angeles (#7) has hosted the Summer Olympics TWO TIMES (1932 and 1984).

LA also outranks Chicago by GDP and Size.

This is just a list so it's not a big deal...but I am feeling a little cheated.
Atlanta hosted the Olympics too! Clearly it's more important than Chicago for that reason...New York too for that matter.

There is an absurd amount of financial services activity in Chicago...this won't show up in GDP measurements. In Los Angeles there is very, very little financial services activity. I'm sure things like the CME & CBOT weighed very heavily in Foreign Policy Magazine's decision to rank Chicago ahead of Los Angeles.
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Old 09-14-2010, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (wilshire/westwood)
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=Wamu6mwl-cQ

Look at are wonderful dowtown.
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Old 09-14-2010, 11:07 AM
 
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=Wamu6mwl-cQ

Look at are wonderful dowtown.
Not a very diverse group.
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Old 09-14-2010, 03:58 PM
 
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Default Miami

I know Miami gets slammed here for lack of corporations but for what Miami lacks in American Fortune 500 companies in makes up for many companies that base their Latin American HeadQuarters in the city & metro. The following is a list of companies that have their HQ's in Miami instead of Latin America:

General Motors S.A(Miramar)
Hewlett-Packard Latin America (Miami)
Nokia Corp Latin America (Miami)
Caterpillar Americas Services (Miami)
American Airlines (Coral Gables)
Novartis Pharmaceuticals Corp. (Miami)
Kraft Foods Latin America (Coral Gables)
Alcatel - Lucent (Miramar)
Cisco Systems (Miami)
Hilton International (Miami)
Ingram Micro (Miami)
Electrolux Home Products International (Miami)
Schering-Plough Corporation (Miami Lakes)
DHL Global Forwarding Latin America (Plantation)
Tech Data (Miami)
Komatsu Latin America (Miami)
Oracle Latin America (Miami)
H.I.G. Capital Management (Miami)
Canon Latin America (Miami)
APL (Miami)
Gap International Sourcing (Americas) (Miami)
Paccar International, Latin America (Miami)
Eastman Chemical Latin America, Inc. (Miami)
Amcor PET Packaging Latin America (Miramar)
Marriott International (Weston)
Microsoft Latin America (Ft. Lauderdale)
SAP International (Miami)
Unisys Corporation (Boca Raton)
UPS (Miami)
Western Union Latin America (Hollywood)

These are all companies conducting business in the area with Latin America instead of having to set up shop in a central or South American city.

As for media most of the telenovelas and Spanish programming is run & produced locally with Univision & Telemundo being homegrown companies with one of them being bought out by a bigger conglomerate.

The Port of Miami is now deeping it's channel to accomadate the super Panamex tankers that are expected once the Panama Canal's expansion is done.
Miami never had it's focus on just being a regional US city and has always looked to points south of it for it's future growth knowing the potential of central & south America decades ago and Miami has capitalized on that. It's great to see it on a list that acknowledges that.
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Old 09-14-2010, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Lets see here... you have a city that has a good economy then you have LA. You have a city with some of the best infrastructure in the world then you have LA. You think Olympics should be a weighted result to place a city higher, I guess by your logic LA > NYC in importance. I also guess Chicago recently overtaking LA in global cities and these rankings and their current economic conditions have nothing to do with these rankings. You have cities smaller than both and smaller GDP then both ranking higher than both.
LAs peer cities arent NYC, CHI, Boston, Philly, DC, SF, Houston, ATL, Dallas all those cities place emphasis on their economy and progression. LAs real peers should be Miami, Vegas, Orlando tourist traps and failed economies.

People from LA try to make that uncivilized pit out to be world class, go and take care of your illegal immigration problem first then come back to talk. K sparky?

NYC doesn't have ANY illegal immigrants, right Casper??
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Old 09-14-2010, 06:37 PM
 
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NYC doesn't have ANY illegal immigrants, right Casper??
Look here Sparky, I dont care if you hail from Paris but you sure as hell dont try to put your city on the level of NY, okay?
You were bragging about how LA has the 2nd largest GDP in the US, whats their per capita income? They come in 11th. Thats how dump like your economy is when the cost of living there is high and the per capita is low.
Yes NY has illegal immigrants too but they dont pop up in front of your eyes like they just got finished swimming across the border from Mexico like the way they do in LA. Try to control your mass illegal immigration problem and getting those 3rd world immigrants some education and money or actually using the federal tax dollars you receive to secure the border better. NY people come to be successful, with as many people as NY has (22 million) they maintain the 2nd highest per capita income in the US. LA with 17 million does not.
NY has always been and will remain to be the most successful city in our country. Chicago out does LA in everything except being a podunk tourist trap. Where people get the image they can go to the beach, oh clear blue waters and end up in some filth resembling pit, you try to rival the white sand beaches and blue waters of Miami? Venice Beach is a dump. Compare your city to Vegas, Orlando, Detroit before you bring it here to compare it to NY, Chicago, DC, SF, Boston, Houston, Dallas, Philadelphia all cities with good and respectable economies. Okay?

Now shew and do something useful with your time, go and tell that illegal immigrant you call a mayor and tell him about the problems in your city. But the LA mentality will kick in, "its all good bro, we're straight chillin, like totally in the sun, maxin out some waves bruh, the economy will recover in its own sweet time dude like totally!"
Then you wonder why New Yorkers laugh at your pathetic excuse for a city.

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Old 09-14-2010, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Miami/ Washington DC
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I know Miami gets slammed here for lack of corporations but for what Miami lacks in American Fortune 500 companies in makes up for many companies that base their Latin American HeadQuarters in the city & metro. The following is a list of companies that have their HQ's in Miami instead of Latin America:

General Motors S.A(Miramar)
Hewlett-Packard Latin America (Miami)
Nokia Corp Latin America (Miami)
Caterpillar Americas Services (Miami)
American Airlines (Coral Gables)
Novartis Pharmaceuticals Corp. (Miami)
Kraft Foods Latin America (Coral Gables)
Alcatel - Lucent (Miramar)
Cisco Systems (Miami)
Hilton International (Miami)
Ingram Micro (Miami)
Electrolux Home Products International (Miami)
Schering-Plough Corporation (Miami Lakes)
DHL Global Forwarding Latin America (Plantation)
Tech Data (Miami)
Komatsu Latin America (Miami)
Oracle Latin America (Miami)
H.I.G. Capital Management (Miami)
Canon Latin America (Miami)
APL (Miami)
Gap International Sourcing (Americas) (Miami)
Paccar International, Latin America (Miami)
Eastman Chemical Latin America, Inc. (Miami)
Amcor PET Packaging Latin America (Miramar)
Marriott International (Weston)
Microsoft Latin America (Ft. Lauderdale)
SAP International (Miami)
Unisys Corporation (Boca Raton)
UPS (Miami)
Western Union Latin America (Hollywood)

These are all companies conducting business in the area with Latin America instead of having to set up shop in a central or South American city.

As for media most of the telenovelas and Spanish programming is run & produced locally with Univision & Telemundo being homegrown companies with one of them being bought out by a bigger conglomerate.

The Port of Miami is now deeping it's channel to accomadate the super Panamex tankers that are expected once the Panama Canal's expansion is done.
Miami never had it's focus on just being a regional US city and has always looked to points south of it for it's future growth knowing the potential of central & south America decades ago and Miami has capitalized on that. It's great to see it on a list that acknowledges that.
Good post! People always underestimate the large impact Miami has on the region. There are more companies to that list too like Fed Ex, Disney, and Sony Music etc.. There are plenty of large companies based in thea area also.
Miami is a huge financial hub for Latin America and media hub. Also what might be one of its most important things its a huge frieght hub sea and air. 85% of all air cargo from Latin America comes through Miami International Airport it is the US largest international cargo airport. (international cargo not total.) Also is the US second largest airport in terms of International passengers. Miami has a lot more to offer then Beaches and nightlife. But even that has something to do with it being on the list with the huge amount of international tourist.
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