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I'm really sorry if I offended you (I didn't mean too), and no none of the cities listed above are a suburb. But San Jose & Baltimore both do have their own MSA's. Fort Worth & Oakland are in a MSA with their neighboring cities of Dallas & San Francisco.
In reality, Washington DC needs Baltimore's help. Together they recently surpassed Chicagoland by GDP. Washington DC could not have done that without Baltimore's CSA's help.
And both San Jose & Baltimore are standalone cities. Oakland & Fort Worth are the real secondaries for their respective MSA's.
Ur cool, it gets annoying tho that people (especially on this site) keep joining Baltimore and DC. if people spend time here they would realize that DC is never even thought about in Baltimore. IDGAF what the census say, they are the same agency that still labels MD as a southern state, when it never really was to begin with.
DMV = DC-Maryland-Virginia region is the strictly the DC area... thats not us.
IDGAF what the census say, they are the same agency that still labels MD as a southern state, when it never really was to begin with.
I REALLY don't want to go down this road in this thread, but historically Maryland was indeed culturally Southern, but not nearly as much today.
At any rate, Baltimore and DC are definitely distinct cities with their own flavors, but they are definitely constitute one region. It would be extremely "homeristic" of you to say otherwise.
Baltimore would be my first choice as I am from Northern Cal. I've got friends and family in San Jose (best friend lives there), and Oakland (family lives in Alameda, which is a wonderful city 1/2 mile west of Oakland) Alameda is on an island/peninsula off of SF Bay. Oakland is in Alameda County.
I've actually been to BWI airport a few times but we went straight to DC from there, never been to Baltimore.
I have no interest in visiting Texas anytime soon (but I will visit it eventually, we are thinking of flying to Dallas and then doing a road trip which would include Ft. Worth).
I spent one long horrible hot humid summer in Texas visiting family when they were stationed near San Antonio. And my sister lived in Dallas in the 90's; I was unimpressed......they moved back to California. I've been to Houston's and DFW's airports too many times to count for flight connections to other places, which I hate having to do because its a waste of time.
I REALLY don't want to go down this road in this thread, but historically Maryland was indeed culturally Southern, but not nearly as much today.
At any rate, Baltimore and DC are definitely distinct cities with their own flavors, but they are definitely constitute one region. It would be extremely "homeristic" of you to say otherwise.
MD being a southern state (which it is not) was not the topic. The topic was that the census bureau does not know what they are talking about.
What do u mean culturally anyway?? That is a pretty broad term.
You can call it "homeristic" all u want. That fact is that Baltimore and DC are about as tight as the other cities i have mentioned earlier.
For living, I would go with Fort Worth because of its laid back nature, economy, low cost of living, and vibrant downtown. However, I love visiting all the other cities in question.
The topic was that the census bureau does not know what they are talking about.
The Census is using broad geographic boundaries when they label MD "Southern." It's not that serious.
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What do u mean culturally anyway?? That is a pretty broad term.
For starters, it was a slave state.
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You can call it "homeristic" all u want. That fact is that Baltimore and DC are about as tight as the other cities i have mentioned earlier.
That's not a "fact," that's an opinion. Those other cities you mentioned don't constitute one CSA (Atlanta and Charlotte SURELY don't); DC and Baltimore do, and there's a reason behind that. The two cities share suburbs, an airport, etc. There is definitely interchange between the two cities, but it's not quite as tight-knit as the cities mentioned originally.
Yeah Danny I will have to disagree with you on here only with Baltimore. Fort Worth and Oakland are at least still in the same MSA as the primary principle cities and do not need to be combined to become one. You can make an argument that San Jose could be the third primary city and needs to be one MSA with San Francisco and Oakland. Baltimore though is completely different. They are not that tied together as you think they are. They have their own media market, their own radio market, their own thing going on.
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