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I think SF with water on two sides is significantly impacted, also LA for being considered sprawling is quite impressive at 1.2 million.
Here is the 5 Mile radius numbers in millions
1. NYC 2.4
2. LA 1.2
3. Philadelphia 1.0
4. Boston 0.9
5. Chicago 0.9
6. DC 0.7
7. Miami 0.6
8. Houston 0.5
9. Detroit 0.5
10. DFW 0.4
11. SF 0.4
12. Atlanta 0.4
Am I wrong in being surprised that LA was more populated than Chicago at the 5M radius?
Am I wrong in being surprised that LA was more populated than Chicago at the 5M radius?
Yeah I am just as surprised at Houston and Detroit.
Detroit is always talked about as being super dense while Houston is talked about like it is a colonial town, when in actuality at 5M they are ranked the same
Yeah I am just as surprised at Houston and Detroit.
Detroit is always talked about as being super dense while Houston is talked about like it is a colonial town, when in actuality at 5M they are ranked the same
I dont think anybody would consider Detroit to be "super dense"
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Yeah I am just as surprised at Houston and Detroit.
Detroit is always talked about as being super dense while Houston is talked about like it is a colonial town, when in actuality at 5M they are ranked the same
Yeah, I think when people say that they are thinking about Detroit 50 years ago. A lot has changed since then.
Despite that though, Houston and Detroit are pretty much mirror images of each other in terms of their residential building stock. Detroit is almost complete made up of single family homes with lawns, drivesways, and completely centered on the automobile (the automobile companies basically owned the city after all). It was the model for late 20th century cities like Houston, Dallas, and Los Angeles. I always giggle a bit when people act like Detroit is filled with brownstones or something.
Thanks Mike - I had a 2009 estimate at about 5.5 million using 2000 Census data and growth rates so seems to be pretty accurate
The other cities were NYC, LA, Chicago, Philly, Boston, SF, Houston, Detroit, DFW, Miami, and DC. Please do not feel obligated was just glad to see your number at ~5.3 in 2007 so the 2009 estimates looks to be +/- maybe 5% or less.
Am I wrong in being surprised that LA was more populated than Chicago at the 5M radius?
The neighborhoods surrounding downtown L.A. are some of the oldest in the city and VERY densely populated. Almost all wall to wall apartment buildings.
Sample neighborhood stats within 5 miles:
Westlake: 103,000 residents at 38,000 per square mile
Pico Union: 42,000 residents at 25,300 per square mile
Echo Park: 43,000 residents at 16,500 per square mile
Boyle Heights: 92,000 residents at 14,200 per square mile
East L.A.: 128,000 residents at 16,800 per square mile
Historic South Central: 52,000 residents at 19,500 per square mile
University Park: 25,000 residents at 20,000 per square mile
and the list goes on........
The neighborhoods in Central L.A. are way more densely packed than people assume. Then again, tourists don't usually visit this area. If Central L.A. was its own city, it would have 850,000 residents and a density of 16,500 per square mile.
--Almost 69% of the population of Los Angeles in the city limits live in neighborhoods with a population density GREATER THAN 10,000 people per square mile. Those that don't live in neighborhoods with more than 10,000 people per square mile usually live in the sprawling San Fernando Valley or in communities that are located in the Santa Monica Mountain range that splits through the city like the Hollywood Hills neighbrohood, Brentwood, or Bel Air.
--It would be interesting to see a neighborhood vs. neighborhood comparison of L.A. to other city's neighborhoods on population density.
Now to the Cores - 2009 Estimates of the Downtown (2 Mile Radius) I will also note based on the map there is very little water in any of these measures at two miles.
1. NYC 506K
2. Philadelphia 243K
3. Boston 213K
4. San Francisco 211K (Used 800 Market St as center, not Emeryville Amtrak)
5. Chicago 160K
6. LA 157K
7. DC 155K
8. Miami 103K
9. Houston 75K
10. Detroit 73K
11. Atlanta 72K
12. Dallas 49K
NYC at 50 miles, again, using the block group unit for 2007.
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