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Old 09-14-2017, 10:23 AM
 
Location: East Bay, San Francisco Bay Area
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I like the scenery, culture of Seattle a bit more. But, Atlanta is a nice city.

 
Old 09-14-2017, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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Originally Posted by fieldm View Post
- Not close to many other cities for a weekend road trip
List of Metro Areas within 12 hour drive

Seattle: 3,798,902 | 0h 0m
*Bellevue: 428,935 | 14m - 20m (if it were its own metro)
*Everett: 787,620 | 30m - 40m (if it were its own metro)
*Tacoma: 861,312 | 35m - 50m (if it were its own metro)
Olympia: 275,222 | 1h - 1h 20m
Bremerton: 264,811 | 1h 5m - 1h 25m
Bellingham: 216,800 | 1h 25m - 1h 50m
Yakima: 249,636 | 2h - 2h 30m
Vancouver, BC: 2,463,431 | 2h 20m - 3h
*Vancouver, WA: 467,018 | 2h 30m - 3h (if it were its own metro)
Portland: 2,424,955 | 2h 40m - 3h 20 min
Victoria: 367,770 | 2h 47m - 3h 2m or 4h 30m - 5h (depends if you take the clipper, high speed ferry)
*Hillsboro: 582,779 | 3h - 3h 40 m (if it were its own metro)
Tri-Cities: 283,846 | 3h 10m - 3h 50m
Salem: 418,139 | 3h 20m - 4h
Spokane: 556,634 | 3h 50m - 4h 40m
Eugene: 369,519 | 4h 10m - 5h
Kelowna: 194,882 | 5h - 5h 40m
Medford: 216,527 | 6h 30m - 7h 50m
Boise: 691,423 | 7h 10m - 8h 20m
Chico: 226,864 | 10h - 11h 40m
Reno: 457,667 | 11h 10m - 12h 20m
Calgary: 1,392,609 | 11h - 12h 10m
Sacramento: 2,296,418 | 11h - 13h
Ogden: 654,417 | 11h 20m - 13h 10m
Salt Lake City: 1,186,187 | 11h 40m - 13h 40m
San Francisco: 4,679,166 | 11h 40m - 14h 10m
plus a bunch of other sizable cities in the san fran area such as Oakland and some as well in the Vancouver BC area such as Surrey
 
Old 09-14-2017, 11:57 AM
 
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List of Metro Areas within 12 hour drive
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You do realize that Seattle does lose in this round? A 12 hr radius gives ATL a much more substantial list than what you just listed. And they're major metros too.

12 hrs East will get you to DFW
12 hrs South gets you past Miami
12 hrs North gets you past Detroit
12 hrs NE gets you to Philadelphia
12 hrs NW gets you to Chicago

and there's a huge number and variety of metros in that 12hr radius. Nope, that poster is correct, there isn't that many cities Seattle has in comparison for a half a day's drive.
 
Old 09-14-2017, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Originally Posted by grega94 View Post
List of Metro Areas within 12 hour drive

Seattle: 3,798,902 | 0h 0m
*Bellevue: 428,935 | 14m - 20m (if it were its own metro)
*Everett: 787,620 | 30m - 40m (if it were its own metro)
*Tacoma: 861,312 | 35m - 50m (if it were its own metro)
Olympia: 275,222 | 1h - 1h 20m
Bremerton: 264,811 | 1h 5m - 1h 25m
Bellingham: 216,800 | 1h 25m - 1h 50m
Yakima: 249,636 | 2h - 2h 30m
Vancouver, BC: 2,463,431 | 2h 20m - 3h
*Vancouver, WA: 467,018 | 2h 30m - 3h (if it were its own metro)
Portland: 2,424,955 | 2h 40m - 3h 20 min
Victoria: 367,770 | 2h 47m - 3h 2m or 4h 30m - 5h (depends if you take the clipper, high speed ferry)
*Hillsboro: 582,779 | 3h - 3h 40 m (if it were its own metro)
Tri-Cities: 283,846 | 3h 10m - 3h 50m
Salem: 418,139 | 3h 20m - 4h
Spokane: 556,634 | 3h 50m - 4h 40m
Eugene: 369,519 | 4h 10m - 5h
Kelowna: 194,882 | 5h - 5h 40m
Medford: 216,527 | 6h 30m - 7h 50m
Boise: 691,423 | 7h 10m - 8h 20m
Chico: 226,864 | 10h - 11h 40m
Reno: 457,667 | 11h 10m - 12h 20m
Calgary: 1,392,609 | 11h - 12h 10m
Sacramento: 2,296,418 | 11h - 13h
Ogden: 654,417 | 11h 20m - 13h 10m
Salt Lake City: 1,186,187 | 11h 40m - 13h 40m
San Francisco: 4,679,166 | 11h 40m - 14h 10m
plus a bunch of other sizable cities in the san fran area such as Oakland and some as well in the Vancouver BC area such as Surrey
Outside of San Francisco and Vancouver you are really reaching.
 
Old 09-14-2017, 12:57 PM
 
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This is about to be the most racist thing I've ever said, I'm ashamed to say it, but the clear and obvious reason for that vast difference is because white and Asian people don't kill each other. (As much.)

Of course, the reason for that, is historically complicated, is far more because of economics than anything to do with genetics or anything, and is largely because of horrid U.S. drug policy and income inequality and etc etc (rich and poor, education, environment, etc etc), but, still. The black community as a collective culture needs to address the pressing issue of violent crime and murder in their urban communities. (I blame Christianity and its culture, personally, but that's a whole other discussion.)

This again comes back to why diversity (true, integrated diversity) is the greatest thing, and should be our goal in America. As different races, we make each other better, when we all mix up in a melting pot, and we actually interact with all kinds of different people, particularly in urban environments. And we avoid the various bad things that tend to happen when an area approaches 100% of any given race.
The problem I have with this is that it puts the blame soley on black people to address something that was not born directly out of the community itself. The violence in black communities was engineered to be so.
When you have government programs or involvement that are designed to hurt communities for sake of profit and preference over other communities,you will have what we have in the U.S. in black and Hispanic communities.

In other words the blame and the fix has to be a national fix,not just the black community.
Befiore the 60's there was no high crime in the black community because you were expected to uplift your community.Funny how things change just for no reason at all huh?
 
Old 09-14-2017, 12:59 PM
 
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That's a completely different thing altogether.
"Urban area" = Midtown, Downtown, Montrose, The Heights, EADO...

I'm not talking about the metro area like UA.
 
Old 09-14-2017, 01:03 PM
 
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"Urban area" = Midtown, Downtown, Montrose, The Heights, EADO...

I'm not talking about the metro area like UA.
Well Houston is a bigger city, so I'd expect the core of Houston to be bigger and cover more territory. That doesn't necessarily mean it's more urban though.
 
Old 09-14-2017, 01:07 PM
 
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Seattle is one of the most isolated big cities in america
 
Old 09-14-2017, 01:13 PM
 
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Crime has been decline everywhere for years.

Look, even if Atlanta had lower crime than Seattle, Dallas and Houston I wouldn't live there over those other options unless it was substantial.

Yes, anyone can pick the criteria they want. I don't like Atlanta, I don't get why that is so hard for you to get. I'm not impressed by Coke or CNN the same way I don't like Seattle just for the Space Needle, Houston for NASA or Dallas for JFK history.

Vegas has more tourists, does that make it the best city?

Seattle has so many more outdoor activities than Atlanta, but I guess you just want to focus on DFW and Houston because that is the one thing Atlanta is better at, natural setting. That said, Houston is a lot closer to the Gulf so it probably has a wider variety of outdoors options available. I mean let's face it, Atlanta has some nice hills and trees, but this isn't the Rockies.

And yes, Houston has had better urban planning than Atlanta. The grid there works great, is infilling nicely, and they are removing 45 downtown. Dallas capped our freeway between downtown and uptown.

Again, I think those cities are cut from the same cloth, they are all pretty similar. I've admitted Atlanta is the prettiest, it's also the least urban. I like it the least.
LOL.Dude no one has tried to make you like anything you dont want to but its obvious to everyone you are totally biased and unfair to a laughing point.

You talk about nice"hills" in Atlanta but apparently dont realize that withing a little over an hours drive,the most popular mountain hike in the US begins/ends.

You say ATL is inferior but dont mention how both TX cities have in staying financially vialble which Atlanta is doing far better.
You discount having a heavy rail as a minor thing but praise Dallas having the longest light rail system with much less ridership than MARTA.

You say Atlanta has more crime (it does but not significantly so)yet crime in Atlanta is down but in Dallas its way up
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crim...s-police-chief
Meanwgile in Atlanta
CRIME RATE DOWN ATLANTA: Year-long crackdown results in low crime rates for 2 Atlanta communities | WSB-TV

Atlanta is NOT the least urban and the numbers to our downtown tell the story you dont wanna see.
Especially Houston with its tunnels underground taking away street traffic.

So sure dont like Atlanta but at least be fair and unbiased but not like Fox news
 
Old 09-14-2017, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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You do realize that Seattle does lose in this round? A 12 hr radius gives ATL a much more substantial list than what you just listed. And they're major metros too.

12 hrs East will get you to DFW
12 hrs South gets you past Miami
12 hrs North gets you past Detroit
12 hrs NE gets you to Philadelphia
12 hrs NW gets you to Chicago

and there's a huge number and variety of metros in that 12hr radius. Nope, that poster is correct, there isn't that many cities Seattle has in comparison for a half a day's drive.
I'm aware, but people make it seem like there are no cities besides Portland and Vancouver. sure there are no other major cities, but there are plenty of mid sized/smaller cities.
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