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View Poll Results: Which city comes on top in terms of architecture?
Detroit 31 32.98%
Chicago 63 67.02%
Voters: 94. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-24-2010, 03:21 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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I'm just not seeing how Detroit would win this...I guess I agree to disagree. It certainly is not all skyscraper either...

Robie House and additional reading
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ro...FLW_robie.html
Bahai Temple
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...pleChicago.JPG
Farnsworth House
http://history-of-architecture-frank...th_rearext.jpg
Crown Hall
http://www.checkonsite.com/wp-conten...crown-hall.jpg
Harold Washington
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...y_Downtown.png
Our lady of sorrows
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...2_feedback.jpg
st peters
http://img.groundspeak.com/waymarkin...9ccfc1e148.jpg
2nd pres
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2567/...1fec920cab.jpg
palmer mansion (too bad its gone)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ansion_old.jpg
another palmer
http://www.wurlington-bros.com/Museu...es/Palmer8.jpg
palmer house
http://www.hotels.com/hotels/1000000.../8079_46_b.jpg
union station
http://photos.igougo.com/images/p115...on_Station.jpg
rockefeller memorial
http://www.planetware.com/i/photo/ro...go-ilch239.jpg
uchicago
http://www.aolcdn.com/photogalleryas...50js072309.jpg
northwestern
http://collegejolt.com/wp-content/up...008/12/nu3.jpg
palace of fine arts, msi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MS...-Images/18.jpg
cultural center
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ch...eiling5135.jpg (broken link)
holy trinity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ho...ade_090321.jpg
mary of angels
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:St...go_st_mary.jpg
uptown theater
http://www1.chicagoreader.com/featur...owntheatre.jpg
aragon ballroom
http://photos.igougo.com/images/p256...n_Ballroom.jpg
st joseph
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Stjoessnowy.jpg

etc etc etc...

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Old 09-24-2010, 05:11 PM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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^ I really don't understand how Detroit would be the clear winner there. Chicago has always been known more for architecture, and the area has always been at least twice as large as Detroit.
You really don't understand my opinion?
Isn't it just blasphemy that Detroit has any votes at all!? ...

And what does "being larger" have to do with it?
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Old 09-24-2010, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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I agree that considering the quantity of older and iconic skyscrapers/buildings......that Detroit has a slight edge; especially considering how much larger Chicago is relative to Detroit.
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Old 09-24-2010, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Look.

The only reason Detroit looks like it has more older buildings is because it never built any newer buildings to dilute its architecture.

When everyone looks at Chicago all they see is new skyscrapers.

But there is much more beyond them.
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Old 09-24-2010, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Look.

The only reason Detroit looks like it has more older buildings is because it never built any newer buildings to dilute its architecture.

When everyone looks at Chicago all they see is new skyscrapers.

But there is much more beyond them.
Of course it did, and if you want to talk numbers Detroit lost A LOT due to urban renewal and just plain neglect. Quantity's not everything.
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Old 09-24-2010, 09:40 PM
 
Location: CA
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Chicago has the best Architecture to me. NYC is no joke either! Sometimes I put the two at a tie!!
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Old 09-25-2010, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Of course it did, and if you want to talk numbers Detroit lost A LOT due to urban renewal and just plain neglect. Quantity's not everything.
Exactly.
Quantity isn't everything.
That's what I mean.

People think Chicago only has quantity. or "Newer" Quality
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Old 09-25-2010, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Houston
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I can't believe we're having a thread about Chicago architecture and no one has mentioned Oak Park or Frank Lloyd Wright (well with the exception of the Robie House in grapico's comment).
Oak Park, Illinois - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Old 09-25-2010, 12:11 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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I can't believe we're having a thread about Chicago architecture and no one has mentioned Oak Park or Frank Lloyd Wright (well with the exception of the Robie House in grapico's comment).
Oak Park, Illinois - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
that is why i left the link instead of the picture on that one, it is just too influential in the world of architecture. there are over 100 FLW in chicago metro...sullivan, flw, mies van der rohe. Detroit is good no doubt, but it is not on Chicago level IMHO, and the opinions of others who have a basic clue and foundational history of architecture. If you wanted to focus perhaps, strictly on art deco for example, then Detroit might have the upper hand... Overall however, I'm just not buying it. There are just too many schools of architecture represented, too many buildings which are core to the field, or started the entire field there, and it only continues.
Of course most people on this board will not have a clue of this, and have probably not been to either city. Since this board is so infatuated with lists...Here are some lists...

Why is Detroit not on these?

http://www.bootsnall.com/articles/10...the-world.html

http://opentravel.com/blogs/best-cit...-architecture/

http://www.businessweek.com/innovate...625_902330.htm

http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguid...s=architecture

http://blog.cheapoair.com/top-5/best...re-lovers.aspx

Why is Chicago on all of them and #1 on several on worldwide lists?

simple google search best cities for architecture

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Old 09-25-2010, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Houston
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that is why i left the link instead of the picture on that one, it is just too influential in the world of architecture. there are over 100 FLW in chicago metro...sullivan, flw, mies van der rohe. Detroit is good no doubt, but it is not on Chicago level IMHO, and the opinions of others who have a basic clue and foundational history of architecture. If you wanted to focus perhaps, strictly on art deco for example, then Detroit might have the upper hand... Overall however, I'm just not buying it. There are just too many schools of architecture represented, too many buildings which are core to the field, or started the entire field there, and it only continues.
Of course most people on this board will not have a clue of this, and have probably not been to either city. Since this board is so infatuated with lists...Here are some lists...

Why is Detroit not on these?

Best Architecture Cities in the World | BootsnAll Travel Articles

Best Cities for Design and Modern Architecture

The Best U.S. Cities, by Design - BusinessWeek

Top architecture Travel Destinations | Yahoo! Travel Guides

Best Cities for Architecture Lovers

Why is Chicago on all of them and #1 on several on worldwide lists?

simple google search best cities for architecture
I agree %100. I have not been to Detroit, but I have been to Chicago and I have a hard time seeing Detroit being able to compare. As much New Yorkers might deny it, Chicago's importance in architectural is on the same level, if not surpasses New York. Basically, in my view, if your putting Detroit's architecture on the same level as Chicago, your putting it on the same level as New York, Los Angeles, or even Paris and London. Does anyone realize how ridiculous that is?

I think your right that people on here have very little understanding of architectural history. I noticed most people best the a cities architecture based three things: skyscrapers, art deco, and Victorian homes. Skyscrapers are an important part of American architecture, but they don't give the entire picture of the city especially considering that skyscrapers only make up a small portion of most cities including Chicago and Detroit. Art Deco and Victorian homes are beautiful, but they had very little influence on modern architecture. If any of you have actually taken an architectural history class, you would know that your going to spend a lot more time on the FLW houses in Oak Park or the Mies van der Rohe and Lois Sullivan skyscrapers in in downtown Chicago, then say the Art Deco buildings in Midtown Manhattan or the Victorian mansions in San Francisco. Art Deco and Victorian architecture were beautiful styles, but the trend only lasted about 20 or 30 years and didn't have nearly the as much of an impact on the architecture world as the architects previously mentioned. As for Detroit, they do have a few Eero Saarinen buildings (which is something to be proud of) as well as the firm who designed the World Trade Center, but its importance in architectural history really doesn't compare to Chicago.
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