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View Poll Results: Which states will be the top 5 Medical/Health/Biotech hubs in 10 years
Maryland 13 13.40%
Florida 4 4.12%
Colorado 3 3.09%
Texas 31 31.96%
North Carolina 18 18.56%
Washington 7 7.22%
Massachusetts 37 38.14%
California 37 38.14%
Pennsylvania 17 17.53%
New Jersey 19 19.59%
Illinois 6 6.19%
Georgia 11 11.34%
New York 13 13.40%
Michigan 3 3.09%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 97. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-21-2010, 02:12 PM
 
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lmao, you are a funny one, how about you show us stuff directly related to the topic.

Saying that the tallest structure in the US is in Utah does not automatically rank Utah as having the best skyline in the US.


Texas passed NY and Cali on the number of fortune 500 comapies located there, but that does not mean we are the best for economies.
give us something overall, like I did in my last post

Find me the top TX co in the category - will give you a hint (Think Alcon I think it a top 50 though)


You do realize these are the companies that deliver the medical/health/bio products right? seems like it would be rather pertinent
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Old 09-21-2010, 02:17 PM
 
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Paul you are useless at debating I showed you a link that listed Texas in the top 5 for biotech (what we are debating DIRECTLY, and you give me a list of where insurance companies are located and think this is a comeback?
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Old 09-21-2010, 02:23 PM
 
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To revitalize their economies during this recession it appears that virtually all cities are looking to the medical/health industry as the answer to all their problems. We've heard about the Texas medical center to New Orleans wanting to participate with new hospitals. But isn't it more than just hospitals?

Truth is... it's about the commercialization of research and growing companies that hopefully don't get bought out but unfortunately is happening at an alarming rate in the biotech industry.

Not everyone is going to be on top.

So I ask two questions
1) is there saturation in medical/health industry? (counting on baby boomers getting old but is there enough for everyone?)
2) Which clusters have the brightest future, moving at fast pace that will overtake current leaders or be on their level?


Yes it is all about commercialization, All the Bio molecules/cos are now purchased and sold like traditional pharma - today look at the MAB market once thought of as a technology market is now a 9 player space dominated by marketing and sales techniques driven by big Pharma (Yes Amgen and Genentech (really Roche) is now big Pharma and not Biotech. The third largest Biotech co in the world is Novartis (a traditional small molecule).

Biotechnology is a research endeavor not a commercialization endeavor any longer. Teva is building manuafacturing capacity to launch the first generation bio-equivelents as generics and mainly is ramping for the US patent expiration of etanercept (Enbrel) and rituximab (Rituxan).

The industry followed the dollars and technology and now owns the space. What is the last Billion dollar brand launched by a small Biotech/non pharma company? short answer is it is more than 16 years ago...
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Old 09-21-2010, 02:25 PM
 
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Paul you are useless at debating I showed you a link that listed Texas in the top 5 for biotech (what we are debating DIRECTLY, and you give me a list of where insurance companies are located and think this is a comeback?

No HTown I posted largest Pharma/Cos in the world - i also reposted the OPs original post - seems like that part of the underlying premise

Where are the TX revenues?

And the topic is not solely Biotech - reread the OPs original post and you will see where you are off topic and not substantiating How TX is tops in the overall segment - On the commercialization side it is rather paltry

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Old 09-21-2010, 02:34 PM
 
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No HTown I posted largest Pharma/Cos in the world - i also reposted the OPs original post - seems like that part of the underlying premise

Where are the TX revenues?

still nothing?? okay, give me a shoult when you find something
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Old 09-21-2010, 02:46 PM
 
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still nothing?? okay, give me a shoult when you find something

I think that is my point? There are some though just not large compared to many other places - But TX has a great economy it just isnt the hub of this category
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Old 09-21-2010, 02:57 PM
 
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I think that is my point? There are some though just not large compared to many other places - But TX has a great economy it just isnt the hub of this category

not THE hub, but certainly one of the major players in Medicine/Health/Biotech. that is all I have been saying for the last few pages.

It may not be number one in each category, (no where is), but when all things are considered, it is up there with Massachusetts, California, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, etc whether you would like it to be so or not
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Old 09-21-2010, 02:59 PM
 
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not THE hub, but certainly one of the major players in Medicine/Health/Biotech. that is all I have been saying for the last few pages.

It may not be number one in each category, (no where is), but when all things are considered, it is up there with Massachusetts, California, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, etc whether you would like it to be so or not

It is not above the following

CA
MA
NJ
PA
NC
MD
NY

so not it is not a top 5 - the OPs question
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Old 09-21-2010, 03:01 PM
 
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It is not above the following

CA
MA
NJ
PA
NC
MD
NY

so not it is not a top 5 - the OPs question

whatever you are listing, TX ranks higher than PA, NJ, NC, and MD
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Old 09-21-2010, 03:07 PM
 
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2010 RANKINGS: KS, TX Surge in Biotech

Kansas and Texas flexed their biotech muscles in Business Facilities’ annual Rankings Report, released today.

Kansas has been ranked the #5 state in the nation in Biotechnology Strength. The 2010 ranking is a major leap forward for the Sunflower State, which ranked ninth in the biotech category last year and tied for 10th in 2008. Texas surged from sixth place to second place in the Biotechnology Strength ranking, firmly establishing the Lone Star State as a major national hub for bioscience-related industries.

According to Business Facilities Editor-in-Chief Jack Rogers, the upward movement by Kansas in biotech was one of the most significant improvements measured in the national publication’s annual rankings this year. “Biotechnology Strength is one of our most important and fiercely competitive rankings categories,” Rogers said. “Kansas clearly has shown that it is a biotech force to be reckoned with, and it has staked a claim to a leadership position for years to come.”

Business Facilities factors more than two dozen criteria into its annual biotechnology ranking, including an assessment of state-funded research and development programs, interaction with institutions of higher education, and major projects announced within the past year.
Perennial biotech king California, which boasts the strongest university-based biotech research network, repeated as the top ranked state in this year’s biotech ranking. Pennsylvania, which topped this category in BF’s 2008 rankings, placed third, followed by Massachusetts.

Texas has continued to build its biotech industry, notching a 35 percent increase in biotech-related facilities and an 11 percent increase in total bioscience employment, according to the 2010 Battelle/BIO State Bioscience Initiatives report. Battelle reported that Texas now has nearly 3,000 biotech facilities and about 65,000 bioscience workers.

“We were particularly impressed by the amount of R&D funding for biotech in Texas (approx. $2.5 million) and the number of higher education degrees in bioscience, which exceeded 10,000,” Rogers said. “Texas not only is building a biotech manufacturing base, it is growing a skilled workforce to support it.”

Rogers cited the Kansas Bioscience Authority as a key driver in the Sunflower State’s remarkable progress in moving up the national biotech ladder. “Kansas has an impressive and expanding program, spearheaded by the Kansas Bioscience Authority (KBA), that brings together industry, higher education and government in a coordinated, targeted effort,” Rogers said.

Rogers called KBA’s stewardship of a $581-million biotech investment fund “a uniquely focused and highly successful effort” that has made Kansas a national center for animal health research, a leader in pharmaceuticals and an emerging player in bioenergy.
Already established as the epicenter of a national Animal Health Corridor, Kansas has been awarded with a trifecta of major government biotech research facilities, including the $650-million NBAF biodefense lab, the Arthropod-Borne Animal Disease Research Lab, and the Center of Excellence for Emerging and Zoonotic Animal Diseases at Kansas State University.

The NBAF, which will be the nation’s premier biodefense facility, is under construction in Manhattan, Kansas, which was cited by Business Facilities as #2 in this year’s ranking of the top 10 metros for Economic Growth Potential. “The research undertaken in Manhattan will continue to grow in importance. KBA has put in place a solid foundation for exponential development that will lift the entire region,” Rogers said.


Here are the complete Biotechnology Strength results:
  1. 1. CALIFORNIA
  2. 2. TEXAS
  3. 3. PENNSYLVANIA
  4. 4. MASSACHUSETTS
  5. 5. KANSAS
  6. 6. NEW JERSEY
  7. 7. NORTH CAROLINA
  8. 8. ILLINOIS
  9. 9. MARYLAND
  10. 10. OHIO
2010 RANKINGS: KS, TX Surge in Biotech - 3-Sep-10 press release or news release
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