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Old 11-14-2010, 10:40 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Ok but then what would you do add Oakland to Sanfransico or Bellevue and Tacoma to Seattle. Best to keep city proper not metro areas.
The OP started the conversation by MSA, not city limits.
The reality is that Miami's County alone has multiple municipalities that have towers over 500 ft. tall.
If Houston boosters and others need hundreds and hundreds of excess square miles in their city limits to "win" a skyscraper contest with tiny Miami, I think that tells me just about all I need to know.
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Old 11-14-2010, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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The OP started the conversation by MSA, not city limits.
The reality is that Miami's County alone has multiple municipalities that have towers over 500 ft. tall.
If Houston boosters and others need hundreds and hundreds of excess square miles in their city limits to "win" a skyscraper contest with tiny Miami, I think that tells me just about all I need to know.
lol, you sound so bitter have a drink
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Old 11-14-2010, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Austin,Tx
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most all of SA's roads are 12 lanes??? which ones are? I have never seen one. SA must have magic to build all these 12 lane highways in the 5 months since I left.


and you must be on some really strong stuff to think SA has more highway miles than Houston. Your 410 is smaller than our 610, your 6104 is smaller than our beltway, on top of that we have the makings of two more loops. then we have 45, 59, 288, 249, 90, 225, hardy, west park, 290.
you guys only have what? 87, 281, 151, 10. Sorry dude. SA doesn't come close. Dream on.

I don't know what the number of freeways has to do with this topic but you left out several highways in SA there's I35,I37,I10,410,281,90,151,181 and 1604 shure Houston has more frewways it's a bigger city.
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Old 11-14-2010, 11:19 PM
 
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I don't know what the number of freeways has to do with this topic but you left out several highways in SA there's I35,I37,I10,410,281,90,151,181 and 1604 shure Houston has more frewways it's a bigger city.
he was the one who said SA had more, and he was adamant about it.
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Old 11-14-2010, 11:26 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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The OP started the conversation by MSA, not city limits.
The reality is that Miami's County alone has multiple municipalities that have towers over 500 ft. tall.
If Houston boosters and others need hundreds and hundreds of excess square miles in their city limits to "win" a skyscraper contest with tiny Miami, I think that tells me just about all I need to know.
LOL, why you mad tho? Besides, it is more MSA's and not just the city limits.
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Old 11-14-2010, 11:54 PM
 
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The OP started the conversation by MSA, not city limits.
The reality is that Miami's County alone has multiple municipalities that have towers over 500 ft. tall.
If Houston boosters and others need hundreds and hundreds of excess square miles in their city limits to "win" a skyscraper contest with tiny Miami, I think that tells me just about all I need to know.
Ok just saying if we go by msa it changes every city, miami is not the only small city either SanFransico,Seattle,have large metros and smaller cities both would have multiple skylines also in there MSA.
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:15 AM
 
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Houston is on up there with the big boys.

How anyone can sit there & say Miami has a larger skyline than Houston is beyond me.

Houston has the 3rd tallest US skyline after NYC & Chicago.
Houston only has 2 more 500+ skyscrapers then Miami. Both skylines are HUGE.
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:41 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Houston only has 2 more 500+ skyscrapers then Miami. Both skylines are HUGE.
Well to be fair... as a few of us previously mentioned. Houston is going to have more Class A office towers and fewer condo towers, whereas Miami being on the beach and having incredible views has smaller/fewer Class A office towers, but more condo towers. Condo towers, typically/not always, just don't reach quite as high.

If you were to reconstruct at 600+, 700+ 800+ 900+ 1000+ ... you will slowly see Houston beat Miami more and more, but I bet (could be wrong...I haven't looked at this specific case, but that is how it works between Miami and Atlanta) if you reconstruct at 400+, 300+, 200+, etc... you will see Miami beat Houston by tower numbers.

Don't get me wrong... both are nice, but both are distinctively different.
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:58 AM
 
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This can be sliced and diced in many ways to make all disparate presummed outcomes look reasonable to the masses. Unfortunately, that sends a message of multiple truths.

As for apples to apples comparisons, municipal boundaries provide a challenge when comparing cities like Houston (634 sq miles of land) to Miami (36 sq miles of land). In this exercise, Houston's huge land mass has 2 (count them...2) more buildings than Miami that are taller than 500 ft. Wow. I'm impressed. Houston is physically almost 18 times larger than Miami.
One cannot look at Miami in the same way that it looks at Houston. They need to be compared objectively in a much more thoughtful way than using just one foundational metric.
As much as I love my Miami Beach address, sometimes I wonder if I'd prefer for MiamiDade to consolidate into one city of Miami like Jacksonville practically did with most of Duval County. Then Miami would be a city of 2.5 million and the 4th largest city in America
Funny, I've thought of the same thing. If that were to happen, WOW!!! 2.5million people, more skyscrapers, a way more balanced socio-economic status, etc.
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Old 11-15-2010, 01:05 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Funny, I've thought of the same thing. If that were to happen, WOW!!! 2.5million people, more skyscrapers, a way more balanced socio-economic status, etc.
Are there any practical reasons for combining the cities or is it just to make your numbers look better?

If it is the numbers I saw just add them up or do everything at the MSA level.
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