Seattle vs Philadelphia (live, state, better, compared)

[Toure]

Originally Posted by Deezus

I'm not even taking a side in this--I could care less about arguing Seattle vs. Philadelphia...

Philly is maybe one of my top 5 favorite cities in the USA. But some of its boosters on here(not all of them) make even the smugness and redundant big leaguing of NY and Bay Area posters look relatively restrained in comparison... It's just a funny CityData cliché on here at this point.

I agree S.F. And Philly posters are the most outrageous. But when I make my statements, I dont go by opinion, I go by facts, or don't comment at all, because I want a nice reputation. When I finally prove someone wrong they get mad, and they say that Philly posters are the worst... When they are just wrong.

[Bill Loney]

Originally Posted by Deezus

Damn, you need a spell check! Cabadians? Tetminal? Pholadelphia? (Actually Pholadelphia would be a great name for a Vietnamese restaurant in Philadelphia if not used already...)

I am starting to wonder what's in the water back there.

[Bill Loney]

Originally Posted by Toure

Now when you have nothing more to fight about you pick on his grammer?

It's pretty difficult taking someone seriously when they clearly can't discern the difference between such words as than and then.

Like it or not, proper grammar does make a difference in how well your message is communicated and the subsequent credence it's given.

[Bill Loney]

Originally Posted by Toure

But yet we are proving every statement you say wrong, and then some. Thread should be closed. Philly is double every thing then Seattle. City population is double, metro population is double.

Is it double in aerospace?
Is it double in high tech?
Is it a larger container port/exporter?

This is too easy.

[Toure]

Originally Posted by Bill Loney

Is it double in aerospace?
Is it double in high tech?
Is it a larger container port/exporter?

This is too easy.

#1 No link so invalid.

#2 YES! Forbes is an opinionated site. I cannot believe you posted a link to Forbes. Burned your credibility. Just because it growed doesn't make it #1 on the list, you see why Forbes is stupid. Thats the same as using T.L.
#3 It all depends on location.

When you get real things to brag about come at me..

[munchitup]

Thread should be closed.

Would some of these handful of ridiculous Philly posters rather have the city never mentioned on this forum? How come they are always saying things like "Stop comparing ____ to Philly". I understand some of them may not actually be from Philly but personally I probably wouldn't read these forums if my own city wasn't brought up every once and a while.

I voted Philly but Seattle continues to impress me. For some reason I have never made it up there.

[RightonWalnut]

Originally Posted by TAM88

There really isn't a way to measure that. What are you using to determine that?

Well for one you could use GDP stats.

[kidphilly]

Originally Posted by Bill Loney

Is it double in aerospace?
Is it double in high tech?
Is it a larger container port/exporter?

This is too easy.

Am pretty certain Philly is the larger port actually

On Tech, I believe it also has more jobs and is noted on many fronts for tech actually

What about Pharma, Finance, Education, Energy etc.

They both have their strengths

While there have been foolish comments from both ends I find much of your assertions pretty narrow personally

[RightonWalnut]

Originally Posted by TheseGoTo11

These two cities bring two questions to mind:

Seattle - what are they going to do next?

Philly - what have they done lately?

Originally Posted by TAM88

With posts like this, it's no wonder Philly boosters have the worst reputation on this site.

Okay... but we're just supposed to take garbage like this?

Quick everyone... pick on Philadelphia. Then when they try to defend their-selves let's bash them and call them homers and boosters.

The sheer stupidity of this site never ceases to amaze me.

P.S. Ice Cream Man is not from nor does he live in Philadelphia.

[RightonWalnut]

Originally Posted by Bill Loney

Is it double in aerospace?
Is it double in high tech?
Is it a larger container port/exporter?

This is too easy.

1. Not double... but close. Philadelphia is certainly not lacking. Lockheed Martin has a large presence in the area among others.
2. No... but again, close. People don't give Philadelphia credit for it's tech scene.
3. This is a moot point. Cities on the west coast tend to have larger container ports because of the Panama Canal situation for the East Coast. However, Philadelphia does have a larger port in general than Seattle, and has many other ports all along the Delaware which are never included into the Philadelphia port statistics like Wilmington, Marcus Hook, Camden, among others. If you look at total port activity... Philadelphia is 20th... Seattle is 36th. that isn't even included all the other ports in the metro.

Seattle
29. Tacoma- 26,282,033
36. Seattle- 23,501,372
102. Everett- 3,020,768
126. Olympia- 1,701,388

Total: 54,505,561


Philadelphia
20. Philadelphia- 35,219,613
24. Paulsboro- 30,485,654
35. Marcus Hook- 24,568,697
60. New Castle- 8,169,975
68. Camden- 7,189,253
78. Wilmington- 4,998,686
130. Chester- 1,567,455

Total: 112,199,333

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._United_States

I think you get the point. Plus the Philadelphia port is expanding and the Delaware River dredging is occurring currently.

Now it's Philadelphia's turn.

While Seattle is certainly not lacking, Philadelphia has a much better Medical/Research/Pharma Sector.
http://www.besthealthdegrees.com/car...alth-care-jobs
http://medcitynews.com/2011/12/for-t...edical-cities/

Philadelphia's Educational/University sector is also much better.

Philadelphia- UPenn- ranked #6
- U of Delaware- Ranked #75
- Drexel University- ranked #83

Seattle- University of Washington- ranked #46
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandre...sities/page+11

Philadelphia- 450,000 college students
Seattle- 200,000 college students
http://www.theatlanticcities.com/art...ge-towns/3054/

Philadelphia kills Seattle when it comes to historical sites.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/1...e=Philadelphia

Philadelphia has a larger tourism/hospitality/museum sector and in-turn, more visitors than Seattle.
Philadelphia- 30 mill+ visitors annually
http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/28/tou...s_slide_3.html
Best Museums
http://news.travel.aol.com/2011/01/2...-for-families/
http://www.ranker.com/list/the-best-...states/nychick

Philadelphia has a much larger manufacturing center than Seattle.
Philadelphia- 22
Seattle- 34
http://manufacturersnews.com/news/ch...obsDec2010.pdf

Philadelphia has a much better Law sector than Seattle.
Philadelphia has a larger Energy/gas sector.
Philadelphia has a larger finance sector
Philadelphia has a better biotechnology sector than Seattle.
Philadelphia has many more big name Real Estate companies.
Philadelphia has a much larger entertainment/media/telecommunications sector.
Philadelphia has a MUCH more diversified economy than Seattle.
^^ I'll get more links for the above later

U.S. Most important cities: Philadelphia clearly ranks ahead of Seattle
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...s-2010/259002/

Need I say more?