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Population does signify a big portion. You just said New York would be the same with 2,000,000. And your wrong. Population matters, and the size of the metro determines a lot.
If the comparison was completely crazy or we settled all of these threads by just consulting the size of the MSA or city clearly we wouldn't have 80+ pages (and growing) of discussion on this topic.
The nuanced argument viz. a viz. size is that it matters some but its not necessarily the dominant factor. Obviously a town of a few thousand is a different from a city of several million. But once an a city grows to a certain size and achieves certain densities then its just one of many factors that you can consider. There are economies of scale but also at a certain point you start to have more of the same amenities and features than a single person can possibly take advantage of. I think you can make a reasonable argument that an MSA of 4 million is not inherently different than an MSA of 5 million to pick some hypothetical numbers.
Hundreds of similar public opinion polls wield similar results. It's not hard to see why, while Seattle wasn't what I expected it to be, my hats off to a very admirable and presentable environment. I could still live in Seattle I suppose, really beautiful city in more ways than one. Cities of San Diego, Seattle, and Denver are American favorites, I've encountered similar enthusiasm for them in actual life as well. I'm never astonished, I can see why.
Before someone posts travel and leisure, which usually always happens consider the sources. One is a very third rate one that every three years revamps their lists to be the complete opposite of what they had it as and the other is a think tank national analysts hire to predict the margin a presidential candidate will win by and other such pollings, in which Harris Interactive dispels most of their competitors with the closest results.
But hey, Philly dropped out of the 15 cities you'd least like to live in!
Population matters, and the size of the metro determines a lot.
Well, if that's the case, Kinshasa beats both Philly and Seattle. While the Kinshasa homers might disagree with me, I'll take economic activity over raw head count any day.
Seattle's metro GDP is 2/3rds Philly's in spite of Philly's 200 year head start, its DT office space has higher lease rates, and its got more DT office space. If Philly is so big and important, it should be able to support more than just 40 million sq ft downtown and lease rates of more than $30/ft. Forget Seattle, I'm not sure DT Philly matches up all that well against Tyson's Corner.
And with this post, we prove that Philadelphia definitely doesn't win on the 'education' metrics, given this prime example of reading comprehension fail.
The context by which I stated "3rd world country" was limited to the setup of the food carts and stands. Portland is famous for their very large population of these propane-fueled fast-food huts. If you're going to base food upon those things (which, yes, are a bit of an eyesore and make whatever section of town they are in look like a 3rd world market), then Portland is the more appropriate place to compare. All I was simply saying was setting up a bunch of them makes the area look 3rd world, not that Philly as a whole has a 3rd world look.
You went and took that statement in a wholly different direction. You clearly love Philly. That's great, have fun with that. You're one of a relatively small percentage who does.
When is the last time you were in Philly? 10 years ago, I would agree, it was nothing special, but as Anthony Bourdain will tell you, Philadelphia really has stepped it's restaurant game up in the last 5 years. Philadelphia can certainly go toe to toe with Seattle in the food scene as well as practically any city in the country. Not to mention Philadelphia was just rated for the best coffee and best sandwich in America. Wait... I thought Seattle was known for coffee?
Your bashing and attacks on the city are pretty unnecessary if you ask me. 1.6 mill city population, 6+ mill metro population, and 30 million visitors last year, more than Seattle and Portland combined, not to mention, Philadelphia was one of the highest ranked cities on Travel and Leisure in 2011 from tourists (a site you westcoasters seem to love). I wouldn't say he's a small percentage at all.
Lastly, as for education, I would safe Philadelphia fares pretty well. All states in the Philadelphia region, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware and Maryland have better education that Washington, which in fact, ranks pretty low. Maybe you should look these things up before you go running your mouth.
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While I'm not sure on Toure's education, I gauruntee you the majority of use are better educated than you are... oh and we have far superior universities to boot too.
We have a lot of millionaires without you.. Thousands actually.
Yes, and much of that wealth was created in 1728.
With a future far less exciting than Seattle's, I can understand why you want to focus so much on the past. Though I seriously doubt that if Ben Franklin were alive today, he'd shun the city of jet engines, software, and cloud computing for a city that has the same ed/med economy as Allentown, Binghamton, and Reading.
you have a lot more ghetto usueless people than millionaires
While I will agree that the city has more swaths of ghetto land than most of us would like, I would hardly call the Philadelphia metro poor. Out of all the cities/metros in the U.S. with the most millionaires, Philadelphia ranks 7th, Seattle does not rank at all.
Again, do your research before you open your mouth.
This is absurd. With the amount of bashing coming in at Philadelphia you think this thread would be closed... any other thread would've been closed by now.
With a future far less exciting than Seattle's, I can understand why you want to focus so much on the past. Though I seriously doubt that if Ben Franklin were alive today, he'd shun the city of jet engines, software, and cloud computing for a city that has the same ed/med economy as Allentown, Binghamton, and Reading.
Hmmm.... really? Last I checked Philadelphia has one of the best educational and medical sectors in the country.
Philadelphia also has the highest concentration of colleges/universities in the country, higher than Boston.
Philadelphia is also strong in Finance, Law, Tourism, media/telecommunications, pharmaceuticals, biomedical, retail/apparel, Real Estate companies, etc. etc. Philadelphia has one of the most diverse economies in the country.
Yes, but I'm sure Comcast, Aramark, Sunoco, Cigna, Vangaurd and other very large powerful Philadelphia based companies were created in 1728. You're pretty funny.
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