Frostbelt VS Sunbelt VS Outlying Area (live, rates, largest, places)

[KodeBlue]

where i am now its in the 20s and windy.. it was 30 before got dark outside. still havent seen any snow on the eastcoast yet.

[johnatl]

Originally Posted by kazoopilot

- Economy (whose healthier?) - Two years ago I would have said Sunbelt, but now it's the Frostbelt. The Sunbelt's economy died with the housing crash.

This sounds like your usual wishful thinking, nothing more.

Guess again.

[DANNYY]

Originally Posted by kazoopilot

- Economy (whose healthier?) - Two years ago I would have said Sunbelt, but now it's the Frostbelt. The Sunbelt's economy died with the housing crash. While the Great Lakes area is still depressed, the Great Plains are growing like crazy. States like Iowa, the Dakotas, Nebraska and the prairie part of Minnesota are seeing great economic growth.

I've said this before this is between the Frostbelt, Sunbelt, AND Outlying Areas. I think I can speak for the Outlying Area as the best in terms of health.

This is why.

Some of the Healthiest Economies in the USA (Below National Average):
- Washington DC (Outlying Area)
- Baltimore (Outlying Area)
- Denver (Outlying Area)
- Seattle (Outlying Area)
- Honolulu (Outlying Area)
- Anchorage (Outlying Area)
- Tulsa (Outlying Area)
- Salt Lake City (Outlying Area)

Decent Ones at National Average Are:
- San Jose
- San Francisco

The only exceptions to the Outlying Area are (Above National Average):
- Portland
- Oakland
- Sacramento

I honestly, honestly don't think either Sunbelt or Frostbelt can compete with the health of the Outlying Area in terms of economy. And the Sunbelt is still on fire economically, you should see Texas & North Carolina.

[californio sur]

Not sure how these regions are designated? What constitutes, for example, the frostbelt? Consistently cold weather during winter? Frost occurs in all states [even the mountains of Hawaii]. Certainly the Mountain West is one of the coldest regions during winter. And how can Honolulu & San Juan not be considered the Sunbelt? Actually San Francisco has a generally year-round cool climate but does not experience frost or freezing temps and San Jose & Sacramento have some of the sunniest weather in the nation. Are these regions just randomly selected and identified as a way to compare? This "frostbelt" seems like another name for the "Rustbelt." The "Sunbelt" is consistent with other names for the southern one-third of the nation.

[Alacran]

Since when did mountains and desert become better scenery then prairie, forests, and lakes?

[DANNYY]

Originally Posted by californio sur

Not sure how these regions are designated? What constitutes, for example, the frostbelt? Consistently cold weather during winter? Frost occurs in all states [even the mountains of Hawaii]. Certainly the Mountain West is one of the coldest regions during winter. And how can Honolulu & San Juan not be considered the Sunbelt? Actually San Francisco has a generally year-round cool climate but does not experience frost or freezing temps and San Jose & Sacramento have some of the sunniest weather in the nation. Are these regions just randomly selected and identified as a way to compare? This "frostbelt" seems like another name for the "Rustbelt." The "Sunbelt" is consistent with other names for the southern one-third of the nation.

The country began in the Northeast & Midwest (was expanded to later) and even in terms of development, they grew around a different era of development than the Sunbelt in general and the Interior West along with Pacific Northwest.

The Midwest in the 1850's or so was what the California was in the 1930's. And that was Westward areas, Midwestern cities at one point were the fastest growing with Chicago said to have been the fastest growing city of its time, along with Detroit, Saint Louis, Cleveland, among others. They completely grew up in a whole different era from a place like Seattle or Denver.

The names Sunbelt & Frostbelt have little to do with their actual names but more so about the era and terms of development when they came to prominence. The Sunbelt is characterized as rapidly growing area, where people from the Frostbelt move from there is actually a page on that also. Which includes Los Angeles, Arizona, New Mexico. Those area grew around the Auto-Mobile era, highways, road networks, and around "sprawl".

This is the Frostbelt: Frost Belt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is the Sunbelt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunbelt

This is Frostbelt to Sunbelt: Frostbelt

It has little to nothing to do with the weather itself. It is primarily a term used to describe regions where certain trends of migration occur. Sunbelt receives Frostbelters, and so on and so forth.

[johnatl]

^Well Danny, we could pass for the "Frostbelt" this morning - it's only 33 here!

[DANNYY]

Originally Posted by johnatl

Well Danny, we could pass for the "Frostbelt" this morning - it's only 33 here!

I'm loving the weather actually John. The only thing I miss about this weather is my Wake Boarding every weekend.

Loving the near Winter feeling of Autumn weather though. Great time of year!

[johnatl]

Originally Posted by DANNYY

I'm loving the weather actually John. The only thing I miss about this weather is my Wake Boarding every weekend.

Loving the near Winter feeling of Autumn weather though. Great time of year!

I hear ya! I just don't like the fact that most of the trees are now bare, and that we are in for a couple of months of cold, snotty weather. It actually snowed a little in the mountains last night.

Other than that, I can deal.

[Smtchll]

Why did you put Memphis & Nashville in the sunbelt? They aren't in the shaded area of that map. It can get pretty cold too. Some days don't even get above freezing, and once or twice a year it won't get above 15 degrees for a high.