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Old 12-19-2010, 02:26 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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Wikipedia's information is FAR MORE ACCURATE than the list of cities that this thread was started from with its woefully skewed numbers.

Any report that is now 10 years old for this sort of metric is essentially worthless as it completely ignores the growth dynamics that have been occurring with some cities more so than others.

Downtown Dallas alone has 135,148 people working there every day. And whats more, that does not include Uptown's numbers. Uptown has become another District in Downtown Dallas because it is impossible to demarcate where one begins and the other ends.

Including Uptown's employment numbers Downtown Dallas's core is probably closer to 180,000 employment.

The correct ranking should be:

Top 10 Largest Central Business Districts by Employment Population:

01. New York City: 1,736,900
02. Chicago: 541,500
03. Washington DC: 382,400
04. Bay Area: 305,600
05. Boston: 257,000
06. Philadelphia: 220,100
07. Dallas: 180,000
08. Seattle: 155,100
09. Houston: 153,400
10. Los Angeles: 143,700

The number of transit users for Downtown Dallas employment use will have increased as well along with the growth of Dallas' light rail mass transit system into the nation's largest system.
shouldn't you also adjust the #'s of the other cities?
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Old 12-19-2010, 02:37 PM
 
Location: NY/FL
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Does this skys the limit guy understand if he gets to combine Dallas's podunk uptown with its downtown that he has to for other cities also. Why don't you be a good little boy and combine the numbers for us for Midtown and Downtown Manhattan, Buckhead, Midtown, and Downtown Atlanta, Downtown and Century City LA, Midtown, Uptown, and Downtown Houston, CBD and university place Pittsburgh.

Go on, and do it. LMAO at this "but its not fair, Dallas has an uptown next to downtown!"
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Old 12-19-2010, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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In the inital list, how would you measure DFW and Minneapolis/St. Paul? Just add the numbers to each other?
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Old 12-19-2010, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Does this skys the limit guy understand if he gets to combine Dallas's podunk uptown with its downtown that he has to for other cities also. Why don't you be a good boy and combine the statistics for Midtown and Downtown Manhattan, Buckhead, Midtown, and Downtown Atlanta, Downtown and Century City LA, Midtown, Uptown, and Downtown Houston, CBD and university place Pittsburgh.

Go on, and do it. LMAO at this "but its not fair, Dallas has an uptown next to downtown!"
Well, at least we know you started the Phoenix/Dallas thread because youre a troll and nothing else. I thought that was a strange thread.
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Old 12-19-2010, 03:01 PM
 
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Do you actually think Downtown Dallas and Downtown Ft. Worth is only 1.6 sq miles?
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Old 12-19-2010, 03:48 PM
 
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Here is a daytime shot of Downtown Dallas from 10-12-10 (with a rendering of Museum Tower on the skyline):





Here is a nighttime shot of Downtown Dallas from 06-26-10 (with a rendering of Museum Tower on the skyline):





Here is a closeup shot, of the 10-12-10 image, that shows Downtown Dallas and Uptown with the under construction Calatrava Bridge in the foreground
(without the Museum Tower rendering shown although it will add dramatically, rising almost 600 feet tall in the middle of this closeup, located visually right
behind the Ernst & Young Tower):




Where does one "begin" and the other "end"? They've melded into one and the same with Uptown just becoming another distinct district of Downtown Dallas.

As far as Uptown being "podunk", Uptown contains in excess of 13,000,000 square feet of Class A and Class AA office space (per the 3Q10 Co-Star office report).

Uptown with 13,000,000+ square feet of office space, most erected in the last 5 years, is 2,000,000 square feet larger than all of Downtown Ft. Worth.

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Old 12-19-2010, 04:34 PM
 
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shouldn't you also adjust the #'s of the other cities?
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Does this skys the limit guy understand if he gets to combine Dallas's podunk uptown with its downtown that he has to for other cities also. Why don't you be a good little boy and combine the numbers for us for Midtown and Downtown Manhattan, Buckhead, Midtown, and Downtown Atlanta, Downtown and Century City LA, Midtown, Uptown, and Downtown Houston, CBD and university place Pittsburgh.
Was thinking the same thing.
It is not the only city that has grown.
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Old 12-19-2010, 04:44 PM
 
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The survey is misleading for all the cities listed.
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Old 12-19-2010, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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06. Washington DC: 145,700 Transit Commuters (38.1%)
It will be interesting to see what this is for 2010. Because this just seems off. Way off. But of course, it's from 2000.
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Old 12-19-2010, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Does this report include government buildings in Downtown DC? I know its not usually included in any CBD stats. Downtown DC with the federal government buildings has to be close to 4 square miles.
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