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Old 12-31-2010, 07:30 AM
 
Location: btw Bmore and DC but in the Bmore Metro Stat Area
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I think this is an area where the NE would win.
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Old 12-31-2010, 07:36 AM
 
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What are you looking for? This could help: America's Best High Schools 2010 - US News Education

America's Best High Schools: The List - Newsweek
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Old 12-31-2010, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Orlandooooooo
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I think this is an area where the NE would win.
Ok So what was the point of posting a ****in thread about it?
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Old 12-31-2010, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Washington, D.C.
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It depends on where in each region.
Inner city schools seem to be the worst, and it doesn't even have to be restricted to just education there a lot of violent and drug infested school in the north and south. Schools with metal detectors and constant police presence make it feel like your going to jail everyday. You say the NE wins but to me its not that much better than the south. Most Maryland and Virginia school districts are among the best in the country. Georgia, Tennessee, Texas and Florida has some good ones too.
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Old 12-31-2010, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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It looks like a lot of schools in the top 100 are private...
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Old 12-31-2010, 09:57 AM
 
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I think it depends, but I think the difference is the presence of county SD's in the South versus the more community based SD's in the NE. I think the latter allows for more community spirit and individuality versus having kids bussed from all over a county to go to school. On the other hand, it seems like county SD's are more integrated and the cultural interaction can be a part of the educational environment. In both regions, you can find your stereotypical "bad" urban schools, but you can find some pleasant surprises, at least as far as I know, in some urban school districts in the NE. For instance, here are some alright to very urban HS's I know of in Upstate NY:
City Honors School
https://www.nystart.gov/publicweb-rc...0600010102.pdf

Leonardo DaVinci High School 212
https://www.nystart.gov/publicweb-rc...0600010128.pdf

Emerson School of Hospitality 302
https://www.nystart.gov/publicweb-rc...0600010104.pdf

Hutchinson Central Technical High School 304
https://www.nystart.gov/publicweb-rc...0600010105.pdf

McKinley High School 305
https://www.nystart.gov/publicweb-rc...0600010098.pdf

Troy High School | Troy CSD
https://www.nystart.gov/publicweb-rc...1700010019.pdf

School of the Arts (http://secondary.rcsdk12.org/SOTA/site/default.asp - broken link)
https://www.nystart.gov/publicweb-rc...1600010074.pdf

Rochester City School District | Secondary School Overviews (http://www.rcsdk12.org/197310714194824600/blank/browse.asp?A=383&BMDRN=2000&BCOB=0&C=55619 - broken link) (Has seen better days, but can still get a better education there than many, if not most urban schools)
https://www.nystart.gov/publicweb-rc...1600010067.pdf

https://www.nystart.gov/publicweb-rc...1700010013.pdf

Ithaca City School District - High School - IHS Home
https://www.nystart.gov/publicweb-rc...0600010017.pdf

There are some others as well.
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Old 11-26-2015, 02:44 PM
 
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It looks like a lot of schools in the top 100 are private...
I believe a lot times, the top schools on such lists are magnet schools.
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Old 06-04-2020, 09:09 AM
 
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I believe a lot times, the top schools on such lists are magnet schools.
Precisely. If you could look only at non magnet schools you'd get a much better picture.
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Old 06-04-2020, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Precisely. If you could look only at non magnet schools you'd get a much better picture.
I agree. That s what is wrong with those rankings. Of course magnet schools do better, they get to pick and choose the students they enroll. Not only does that improve their standardized test results, it lowers the results in the public schools they draw from.

I know this thread is very old but overall public schools in the northeast are MUCH better than those in the south. If you look at state education rankings, states in the northeast like Massachusetts, Connecticut, New York and New Jersey are always at the top. That says a lot considering these states have large populations with urban poor and home where English is the second language.

To illustrate the difference, I often tell the story of a family member who moved from an affluent northeastern suburb to a small town down south. In the northeast she was basically a C student but when her family moved south in her high school years, she went from being a C student to being an A/B student. Why? Because the curriculum in the southern schools were not as rigorous and she said she had learned the things she was being taught in the southern high school in the northeast middle school she attended.

Another family member moved to two different major southern cities and struggled to find good schools in either. She was fortunate to find one of the best school systems in the last state but noted it did not compare to the northern schools she knew and went to. She said that southern schools tend to have nice shiny new facilities that look great with things like nice athletic facilities, but fall short in actually educating the kids. Class sizes are bigger which affects learning and the schools are larger which affects discipline and the community feel of the school. There is a lack of accountability in teaching and curriculum seems to vary at the elementary school level. These make the difference. Jay
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Old 06-04-2020, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I agree. That s what is wrong with those rankings. Of course magnet schools do better, they get to pick and choose the students they enroll. Not only does that improve their standardized test results, it lowers the results in the public schools they draw from.

I know this thread is very old but overall public schools in the northeast are MUCH better than those in the south. If you look at state education rankings, states in the northeast like Massachusetts, Connecticut, New York and New Jersey are always at the top. That says a lot considering these states have large populations with urban poor and home where English is the second language.

To illustrate the difference, I often tell the story of a family member who moved from an affluent northeastern suburb to a small town down south. In the northeast she was basically a C student but when her family moved south in her high school years, she went from being a C student to being an A/B student. Why? Because the curriculum in the southern schools were not as rigorous and she said she had learned the things she was being taught in the southern high school in the northeast middle school she attended.

Another family member moved to two different major southern cities and struggled to find good schools in either. She was fortunate to find one of the best school systems in the last state but noted it did not compare to the northern schools she knew and went to. She said that southern schools tend to have nice shiny new facilities that look great with things like nice athletic facilities, but fall short in actually educating the kids. Class sizes are bigger which affects learning and the schools are larger which affects discipline and the community feel of the school. There is a lack of accountability in teaching and curriculum seems to vary at the elementary school level. These make the difference. Jay
Oh 100%. I realized we’re both b bias here but this is a no brained.

I’m often shocked t how sprawling, suburban and modern poor performing southern schools are. I Dj t get it, at all.

They’ll have all the kids form the same neighborhood, everyone speaking English or maybe Spanish, community support and still be below schools that look like this or this in Boston that are 100+ years old and falling apart inside with rotted floors, leaky ceilings etc. Then they’ll have the nerve to build a 5,000 seat state of the art football stadium. What are the priorities? I think I. The south the low COL doesn’t make students feel as pressured to go to elite colleges. Also state schools with high acceptance rates are more abundant.

The high immigrant populations of northastern metros probably helps educational outcomes rather than hurts it tbh.
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