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View Poll Results: What city in the south has the most "big city" feel?
Atlanta 93 27.84%
Charlotte 4 1.20%
Dallas 46 13.77%
Fort Worth 1 0.30%
Houston 94 28.14%
Jacksonville 1 0.30%
Memphis 4 1.20%
Miami 66 19.76%
New Orleans 23 6.89%
Oklahoma City 0 0%
San Antonio 2 0.60%
Tampa 0 0%
Voters: 334. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-08-2011, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by kdogg817 View Post
6.8-5.9 is 900,000 more residents you can be dellusional all you want.

Check some of the latest numbers. Houston has over 6 million plus in its metro area. It is the 5th largest metro in the U.S. behind Dfw by about 750,000-800,000 people. That was published back before November. The gentleman named DANNY has starte numerous threads in the Houston forum talking about Houston's growing population numbers. They are very interesting. Go and read them.

 
Old 01-08-2011, 02:42 PM
 
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Check some of the latest numbers. Houston has over 6 million plus in its metro area. It is the 5th largest metro in the U.S. behind Dfw by about 750,000-800,000 people. That was published back before November. The gentleman named DANNY has starte numerous threads in the Houston forum talking about Houston's growing population numbers. They are very interesting. Go and read them.
The census numbers from 2009 survey shows a 900,000 gap but even by your estimation that is a significant gap. DFW is still growing at a faster rate than Houston.
 
Old 01-08-2011, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Houston & Miami-Fort Lauderdale are the only two answers here when it comes to "big city" feel off urbanity when it comes to staying consistent (one-two finish for Houston & Miami except on 100 mile radial core region). Houston & Dallas-Fort Worth when it comes to "expansive continuous regions". Here is information on the core radius populations.

2 Miles from Radial Core Region:
- Washington DC: 155,000
- Miami-Fort Lauderdale: 103,000
- Houston: 75,000
- Detroit: 73,000
- Atlanta: 72,000
- Dallas-Fort Worth: 49,000

5 Miles from the Radial Core Region:
- Washington DC: 700,000
- Miami-Fort Lauderdale: 600,000
- Houston 500,000
- Detroit 500,000
- Dallas-Fort Worth: 400,000
- San Francisco-Oakland: 400,000
- Atlanta: 400,000

25 Miles from Radial Core Region:
- Washington DC: 4.1 Million
- Houston: 3.7 Million
- Detroit: 3.6 Million
- Dallas-Fort Worth: 3.6 Million
- Boston: 3.4 Million
- Miami-Fort Lauderdale: 3.3 Million
- Atlanta: 3.1 Million

100 Miles from Radial Core Region:
- Washington DC: 12.4 Million
- Bay Area: 11.0 million
- Atlanta: 8.7 million
- Houston: 7.8 million
- Dallas-Fort Worth: 7.7 million
- Miami-Fort Lauderdale: 5.8 million

Source: http://www.narprail.org/cms/images/u...eets_all08.pdf

Atlanta really picks up and beats the other southern cities (Houston, Miami, Dallas-Fort Worth) when it comes to having a radial core region of 100 miles from center point, but that is far too sprawled out. For direct density and region of the core inhabited area, the 2 mile & 5 mile ones are the best for the immediate area. Everything after that just starts going across the state and into far out distances.
 
Old 01-08-2011, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Thank you all and I plan to enjoy my Birthday!

I was a little shocked to see Houston beats out Dallas in the 100 mile radius department; I expected Dallas to be bigger.
 
Old 01-08-2011, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Thank you all and I plan to enjoy my Birthday!

I was a little shocked to see Houston beats out Dallas in the 100 mile radius department; I expected Dallas to be bigger.
Because the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex is larger in population? Yeah when it comes to urbanity, the boundaries don't make a difference at all. Its blatantly wrong to say "we're the larger city by population or we're the larger metropolitan area, therefore we're more urban" because that is far from the truth.
Urbanity is the build up around the core region of your metropolitan area, and how cohesive and consistent it can stay.

By the way, Happy Early Birthday, you're actually a year and a few months older than me.
 
Old 01-08-2011, 03:07 PM
 
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Although I live in metro Atlanta, I'd probably go with Houston as number one, given its slightly higher density, as well as its roughly equally sized (sprawled) developed area, plus its roughly comparable skyline, in terms of a dynamic factor.

I'd place Atlanta at 2, and Dallas and Miami tied for three.
 
Old 01-08-2011, 03:08 PM
 
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The New Orleans metro is just too small to feel like a big city. Sure, when you're driving around downtown near the French Quarter, it feels big, but get outside of the downtown area, when driving around the region, and it feels like a mid-sized metro area given its size, on the order of a Charlotte or Raleigh-Durham.
 
Old 01-08-2011, 04:20 PM
 
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Miami
 
Old 01-08-2011, 04:27 PM
 
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This is about big city feel right??? Population doesn't matter in the DFW area because the area is very divided. If you move to FW; you live in FW. If you move to Plano; you live in Plano; people moving to those areas will have little affect on the city of Dallas. It's different with Houston or Atlanta because these cities are the focus point of their areas.
I agree with this. Because ATL, Houston have a more centralized feel, they feel bigger. Even though LA is surrounded by a million suburbs just like Dallas, LA is an exception, and looks bigger(and IS bigger) than all the others cities on this list(including Houston).
 
Old 01-08-2011, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by DANNYY View Post
Houston & Miami-Fort Lauderdale are the only two answers here when it comes to "big city" feel off urbanity when it comes to staying consistent (one-two finish for Houston & Miami except on 100 mile radial core region). Houston & Dallas-Fort Worth when it comes to "expansive continuous regions". Here is information on the core radius populations.

2 Miles from Radial Core Region:
- Washington DC: 155,000
- Miami-Fort Lauderdale: 103,000
- Houston: 75,000
- Detroit: 73,000
- Atlanta: 72,000
- Dallas-Fort Worth: 49,000

5 Miles from the Radial Core Region:
- Washington DC: 700,000
- Miami-Fort Lauderdale: 600,000
- Houston 500,000
- Detroit 500,000
- Dallas-Fort Worth: 400,000
- San Francisco-Oakland: 400,000
- Atlanta: 400,000

25 Miles from Radial Core Region:
- Washington DC: 4.1 Million
- Houston: 3.7 Million
- Detroit: 3.6 Million
- Dallas-Fort Worth: 3.6 Million
- Boston: 3.4 Million
- Miami-Fort Lauderdale: 3.3 Million
- Atlanta: 3.1 Million

100 Miles from Radial Core Region:
- Washington DC: 12.4 Million
- Bay Area: 11.0 million
- Atlanta: 8.7 million
- Houston: 7.8 million
- Dallas-Fort Worth: 7.7 million
- Miami-Fort Lauderdale: 5.8 million

Source: http://www.narprail.org/cms/images/u...eets_all08.pdf

Atlanta really picks up and beats the other southern cities (Houston, Miami, Dallas-Fort Worth) when it comes to having a radial core region of 100 miles from center point, but that is far too sprawled out. For direct density and region of the core inhabited area, the 2 mile & 5 mile ones are the best for the immediate area. Everything after that just starts going across the state and into far out distances.


DANNYY always has the best sources and statistics/numbers. DANNYY, your are like a statistical ATM. You are awesome. Thanks.
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