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View Poll Results: Could Toronto be Considered a US City?
Yes 39 27.66%
No 102 72.34%
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Old 01-23-2011, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Prince George's County, Maryland
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You need a passport to go there, NO!
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Old 01-23-2011, 12:59 PM
 
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Jeffredo: I'll assume you have never spent a lot of time in Canada or its major cities. Yes there are similarities (as the US would have with any developed English Speaking nation) but to call Canada as defacto US is insulting to Canadians. Toronto is not NYC, not Chicago, not LA it is distinctly Toronto. Same would go for Halifax, Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg. Ever been to Newfoundland? I bet if you had you would never post what you did. How about Montreal/Quebec City? Do you know the crime rate of major Canadian cities? Do you understand how the parliamentary system differs from the US? Do you know how Canadians feel on major socio-political issues?
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Old 01-23-2011, 01:13 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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Could California be considered a state of Mexico? Once you've answered that you have your answer.
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Old 01-23-2011, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Canackistan
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Jeffredo: I'll assume you have never spent a lot of time in Canada or its major cities. Yes there are similarities (as the US would have with any developed English Speaking nation) but to call Canada as defacto US is insulting to Canadians. Toronto is not NYC, not Chicago, not LA it is distinctly Toronto. Same would go for Halifax, Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg. Ever been to Newfoundland? I bet if you had you would never post what you did. How about Montreal/Quebec City? Do you know the crime rate of major Canadian cities? Do you understand how the parliamentary system differs from the US? Do you know how Canadians feel on major socio-political issues?
While I agree with what you wrote, for the most we are basically America Jr.

We do have our differences, but a lot of Canada could pass for US and vise-versa.
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Old 01-23-2011, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Canackistan
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Canadian provinces are de facto US states so it stands to reason Toronto (and Vancouver, Winnipeg, Regina, etc...) is a de facto US city. In the case of the US and Canada the border is an contrivance that doesn't have much bearing on the economic and cultural aspects of the two. "North America" (save for Mexico) is so integrated that national differences are minimal at best. Its like Californians and Carolinians arguing they're vastly different. They're not.
Agreed. It's like we're one big strip mall!
We all watch the same TV, listen to the same music, Watch the same movies and shop at the same stores, for the most part.
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Old 01-23-2011, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Southwest Suburbs
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While I agree with what you wrote, for the most we are basically America Jr.

We do have our differences, but a lot of Canada could pass for US and vise-versa.
Popular Canadaian artists and celebs such as Justin Beiber and Drake are pretty much honorary Americans. I never looked at them in a immigrant/foreigner matter. Technically they're foreigners, but I wouldn't have known if I didn't know Drake was an actor on Degrassi and the media said Justin is Canadian. Even their accents don't really differ. I was watching a movie called "The Proposal" starring Sandra Bullock. She was playing as a Canadian immigrant living in New York. Her problem she was on the verge of being deported because her Visa application been denied and the thing that stuck out was when she said " Its not like I'm even an immigrant, I'm from Canada for cry sake".

A fresh off the island Puerto Rican is more of a immigrant than a Canadian(except for Quebec people).
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Old 01-23-2011, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Yeah there's an obvious culture overlap with the two countries and the differences might be subtle, but Toronto's pretty unique in its own right.
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Old 01-23-2011, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Canackistan
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Popular Canadaian artists and celebs such as Justin Beiber and Drake are pretty much honorary Americans. I never looked at them in a immigrant/foreigner matter. Technically they're foreigners, but I wouldn't have known if I didn't know Drake was an actor on Degrassi and the media said Justin is Canadian. Even their accents don't really differ. I was watching a movie called "The Proposal" starring Sandra Bullock. She was playing as a Canadian immigrant living in New York. Her problem she was on the verge of being deported because her Visa application been denied and the thing that stuck out was when she said " Its not like I'm even an immigrant, I'm from Canada for cry sake".

A fresh off the island Puerto Rican is more of a immigrant than a Canadian(except for Quebec people).
I really loved that movie! I remember there was an interview about this movie with actor Ryan Reynolds (who is Canadian). It's pretty realistic of how bass-ackwards the immigration system is regarding "foreign" Canadians.
We're virtually the exact same people. If a Canadian and an American were to travel around the world, locals would not probably not be able to tell us apart.

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Old 01-23-2011, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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I really loved that movie! I remember there was an interview with actor Ryan Reynolds about it. It's pretty realistic of how bass-ackwards the immigration system is regarding "foreign" Canadians.
We're virtually the exact same people. If a Canadian and an American were to travel around the world, locals would not probably not be able to tell us apart.
You can say the same thing about a peruvian and an ecuadorian but does that mean they're the same people? Absolutely not.
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Old 01-23-2011, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Canackistan
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You can say the same thing about a peruvian and an ecuadorian but does that mean they're the same people? Absolutely not.
Okay well not exactly the same, but about 99.99999% the same.
Canucks and Yanks are probably the most identical out of any people on earth. We might have some imaginary line separating us but that's about it.
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