How many 100K plus cities in your metro? (population)
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Does it really matter? American cities are a product of their geography and the generation in which they've grown up. Some have hundreds of small suburbs, like Atlanta. Others have fewer suburbs, but the suburbs are big cities in their own right, like Mesa and Aurora.
Different people have different ideas on which is better, but everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion.
This is what I am asking...the GA poster made it a big deal that Atlanta has so many suburbs and Phoenix doesn't, but I'm asking him why he thinks it is better.
Why would you want one of your suburbs to have a higher population than the core city? Seems like a possible recipe for splitting city amenities. Look at Minneapolis and St. Paul, for instance, and imagine if they were one city (those of you who know what St. Paul looks like and has downtown). It'd be quite a bit different!
Why would you want one of your suburbs to have a higher population than the core city? Seems like a possible recipe for splitting city amenities. Look at Minneapolis and St. Paul, for instance, and imagine if they were one city (those of you who know what St. Paul looks like and has downtown). It'd be quite a bit different!
I'm not sure if this is directed at me or not, but I'll respond with some thoughts that I hope clarify my earlier comments.
I don't necessarily want a suburb to outgrow its principle city. (Honestly I don't care if it happens or not.) I was commenting that some cities have a lot of small towns for suburbs, others have a few large cities for suburbs. My point to another poster was that it is a result of geography and history.
Western cities developed with lots of space available. Eastern cities did not, and are consequently built closer together. As they grow, they fuse into larger metro areas, even thought they are a large network of smaller cities and towns. I would consider Atlanta to be a good example of this.
Meanwhile a city like Denver is built in a widely open plain, with the mountains forming a natural geographic boundary to the west. But on the eastern side of the metro is Aurora, at 145 square miles and 325,000 people. It could literally be the center of its own metro area if it were not built so close to Denver.
Milton and Newmarket are coming close. Most of the other suburbs are somewhat exurban.
Oshawa metro (if Canada had CSAs, it would be part of Toronto's CSA)
Oshawa: 142,000 / 150,000
Whitby: 111,000 / 130,000
There's also Clarington in the Oshawa metro.
Hamilton metro (similar situation as Oshawa)
Hamilton: 504,000 / 520,000
Burlington: 164,000 / 177,000
There's also Grimsby in the Hamilton metro.
Take Metro Atlanta for example. Hence, more suburbs, smaller area, equals smaller population per suburb.
Roswell
Alpharetta
Sandy Springs
John's Creek
Milton
Duluth
Suwannee
Buford
Sugar Hill
Dacula
Norcross
Lawrenceville
Grayson
Snellville
Lilburn
Centerville
Loganville
Dunwoody
Doraville
Chamblee
Clarkston
Brookhaven
Avondale Estates
Stone Mountain
Pine Lake
Scottdale
Decatur
Conyers
Covington
Porterdale
Oxford
Magnet
Vinings
Smyrna
Marietta
Austell
Mableton
Powder Springs
Kennesaw
Acworth
Woodstock
Holly Springs
Canton
Hickory Flat
Hiram
Dallas
Lithia Springs
Clarkdale
Douglasville
New Georgia
Winston
Fairplay
Villa Rica
Temple
Macedonia
Free Home
Coal Mountain
East Point
College Park
Hapeville
Riverdale
Forest Park
Lake City
Conley
Morrow
Jonesboro
Lovejoy
Rex
Ellenwood
Stockbridge
McDonough
Locust Grove
Hampton
Fayetteville
Peachtree City
Starrs Mill
Senoia
Tyrone
Sharpsburg
Madras
Newnan
Palmetto
Faiburn
Union City
Are these cities or neighborhoods? And how many counties does this cover?
Greater Los Angeles- 40 (41 if you include Los Angeles) (Source: http://www.dof.ca.gov/research/demographic/reports/estimates/e-4_2001-07/documents/E-4_2009%20Internet%20Version.xls (broken link))
Long Beach: 492,682
Santa Ana: 355,662
Anaheim: 348,467
Riverside: 300,430
Irvine: 212,793
San Bernardino: 207,832
Glendale: 207,303
Huntington Beach: 202,480
Oxnard: 197,067
Fontana: 189,021
Moreno Valley: 186,301
Santa Clarita: 177,150
Rancho Cucamonga: 177,736
Garden Grove: 174,715
Ontario: 173,188
Pomona: 163,408
Palmdale: 151,346
Pasadena: 150,185
Torrance: 149,111
Corona: 148,597
Lancaster: 145,074
Orange: 141,634
Fullerton: 137,624
Thousand Oaks: 128,564
El Monte: 126,308
Simi Valley: 125,814
Inglewood: 118,868
Costa Mesa: 116,479
Downey: 113,469
West Covina: 112,648
Norwalk: 109,567
Ventura: 108,787
Burbank: 108,029
Victorville: 109,441
South Gate: 102,770
Temecula: 102,604
Mission Viejo: 100,725
Murrieta: 100,714
Rialto: 100,022
Los Angeles neighborhoods over 100,000+ (http://www.laalmanac.com/population/po24la.htm)
South Los Angeles: 283,343
North Hollywood (WOOT! My old 'hood): 118,094
Hollywood: 113,110
---might be over 100,000 now since these stats were from 2000-----
Boyle Heights: 92,369
Van Nuys: 90,393
I'll do the medium sized California metros (someone did the Bay already):
San Diego area: 3 (4 incl. SD)
Chula Vista: 237,595
Escondido: 147,514
Carlsbad: 106,804
Some of you have WAY TOO MUCH TIME to be posting every suburb and its population! But it's very well appreciated by me -- thanks!!
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