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Manhattan's a one trick pony and SF has no guidos, how "rational" of you...
Well......lets see. You havent been to SF or Chicago. You just know nothing in the world compares to Manhattan. You just know you'd love Chicago altough you havent been. Sorry doesnt make sense to me. Try out Paris, London, Tokyo....
I only say one trick pony because SF is an entire city, not just a downtown, an amazing urban mecca, but SF is a whole city.
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Not really, I just wanted to throw every big name city out there. Atlanta & Staten Island have similar populations and densities. I just figured they can go at it, I didn't ask which is the more important place just gave criteria for where one would prefer to live in.
Staten Island must surely appeal to someone at least for some reason or another, otherwise it wouldn't have a purpose for its existence.
I paired Los Angeles up with Brooklyn because Brooklyn is the 2nd main borough in terms of power and influence (which is still very strong considering the city its the borough too) behind Manhattan, and Los Angeles is the 2nd largest city in the country and the 2nd largest economy and stuff like that. I know Brooklyn's population is like 1.2 Million less, but that makes no difference when it comes to where someone wants to live. Since when does exact population measures matter where you live? Brooklyn on objective where to live criteria can match Los Angeles for where more would want to live.
I paired Chicago with Queens, mostly just to throw another big named city in there. Also could have done Washington DC too but picked Chicago instead since Queens has a population not too far off from Chicago, although has less land space than Chicago.
I paired Bronx & Baltimore because both get overlooked for the qualities they possess, both are viewed as crime capitals when there are plenty of redeeming areas in both places for one to live a happily and prosperous lifestyle without constant fret.
I paired Manhattan up with San Francisco because after New York, San Francisco is the 2nd densest city in the country. It may be double the land area of Manhattan and half the population but its feel is the most similar it gets to Manhattan in the country on a city wide basis (not just downtown but city wide). Plus I never asked which is more important or whatever, just simply asked where people rather live with subjective and some precise criteria.
I made the criteria to suit the need of people who prefer one place over another. It's subjective mostly with some criteria that are absolute like "best schools for higher education" which isn't subjective or whatever. But yeah, lets stop arguing the premise for the thread and focus on the 5 comparisons taking place in the thread instead.
I think we have to take this thread with a grain of salt just for fun
If nothing else my co-workers in NY are always trashing NJ and Staten Island... so now I can join in with trashing Staten Island! j/k
The big problem with breaking up the NYC boroughs is ultimately they are very Manhattan centric. It is the direction most of the roads and public transit run to. It is where the business (CBD) base is. The outer Boroughs are much more residential and residential shopping/services in comparison.
Whereas the all the other cities... bigger and smaller We are comparing the whole core city, so the very nature of the types of places we are comparing are very different.
Criteria:
- Weather-Tie- basically the same area
- Scenery-The bronx-wave hill,riverdale,pelham bay
- Economy-Baltimore-its a city
- Education-Bronx
- Parks-Bronx. Multiple parks and has the biggest park in nyc
- Waterfront-Baltimore
- Skyline-Baltimore
- Downtown activity-Stuck. Im not sure if baltimore has activity on the level of a fordhamroad or grandconcourse
- Shopping-Baltimore
- Diversity-Bronx
- Housing stock-Theres castles in the bronx
- School systems (K-12)-the bronx.BX high school of science
- Higher education (Colleges & Universities)-The bronx
- Mass Transit-The bronx no contest
- Niche Industry (What are they for either?)-?
- Pace of life-The bronx
- Quality of life-tie
- Cost of living-Baltimore
- Dining scene-Baltimore
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Wow, I was expecting more traction with this thread. It seemed to have all the credentials lined up to be a successful thread for sure, I wonder if its because the criteria list just became too overwhelming?
I hope it rejuvenates, its a great comparison to be had!
Where is Texas or Dallas Houston? Seems like Texas should be on there before Georgia cities of Atlanta Basically a bunch of yankee cities then southern cities of baltimore and atlanta.
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Where is Texas or Dallas Houston? Seems like Texas should be on there before Georgia cities of Atlanta
No. Even though Dallas & Houston are about the same density as Atlanta & Staten Island, they have an enormous chunk of land area, which makes it exceptionally disproportionate to the total amenities in their city limits, especially with Houston. With Atlanta, it has amazing amenities in the city limits and in the suburbs too.
With Houston & Dallas it would have been disproportionate because of their massive land area completely dwarfing Staten Island. I tried to make it as realistic as possible with the biggest names available. I was also considering Tucson, Albuquerque, El Paso, Milwaukee, Louisville, Las Vegas, Miami, & Charlotte to compare to Staten Island due to their populations being in the same ball park, but decided not too because many of them aren't as universally recognized as Atlanta (or even Miami) but Miami is way more dense than Staten Island so it was thrown off.
Anyways, please stay on topic people. We're not discussing why things got matched up the way they did. I already made the thread, please discuss on topic and possibly stick to the criteria. Thank you.
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