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Old 01-20-2011, 10:49 PM
 
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The thing that is interesting is that these cities have lower unemployment compared to other cities in the US.

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Old 01-20-2011, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Nope.

Some of them have the highest unemployment rates in the country.

National Average is 9.3%

Some cities that are "Sanctuary Cities" with higher than National Unemployment Rates are:
- Los Angeles, CA : 12.1%
- San Diego, CA: 10.4%
- Miami, FL: 12.1%
- Detroit, MI: 12.0%
- San Francisco, CA: 10.3%
- Portland, OR: 10.1%

That accounts for 6 of the total number of "Sanctuary Cities" on that list that have exceptionally high unemployment rates.

Source: Unemployment Rates for Metropolitan Areas
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Old 01-20-2011, 11:02 PM
 
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Nope.

Some of them have the highest unemployment rates in the country.

National Average is 9.3%

Some cities that are "Sanctuary Cities" with higher than National Unemployment Rates are:
- Los Angeles, CA : 12.1%
- San Diego, CA: 10.4%
- Miami, FL: 12.1%
- Detroit, MI: 12.0%
- San Francisco, CA: 10.3%
- Portland, OR: 10.1%

That accounts for 6 of the total number of "Sanctuary Cities" on that list that have exceptionally high unemployment rates.

Source: Unemployment Rates for Metropolitan Areas
Most of them don't have the highest.
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Old 01-20-2011, 11:05 PM
 
Location: classified
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^^ And the other cities just happened to be on the list because of either a huge agriculture/oil/gas presence (ie Houston, Dallas, Minneapolis) or because of a huge government/education presence (ie DC, Baltimore, Austin).
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Old 01-20-2011, 11:29 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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The thing that is interesting is that these cities have lower unemployment compared to other cities in the US.
So is your point that these cities are really trying to attract cheap labor? I never thought of it like that before. It sounds cynical but its possible.
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Old 01-21-2011, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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I thought Philadelphia was a sanctuary city as well?
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Old 01-21-2011, 07:57 AM
 
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So is your point that these cities are really trying to attract cheap labor? I never thought of it like that before. It sounds cynical but its possible.

No

I'm trying to say that there is no correlation between illegal immigrants and unemployed Americans.
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Old 01-21-2011, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Tampa - St. Louis
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St. Louis wants to be a sanctuary city, but the state of Missouri said they wouldn't give the city any critical funding if they did.
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Old 01-21-2011, 10:37 AM
 
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St. Louis wants to be a sanctuary city, but the state of Missouri said they wouldn't give the city any critical funding if they did.

The funny thing is that states that refuse to have sanctuary cities are small donors to the federal government.
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:28 AM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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The funny thing is that states that refuse to have sanctuary cities are small donors to the federal government.
Where did you get that bit of data from? First, with the exception of St. Louis as was cited, I couldn't find a good reference for some of the cities not shown above to have refused sanctuary city status. It just appears that they are not.

Here's a sampling of the tax collections of a few of the states in FY2007 shown on the map above that do not have sanctuary cities. The number in parenthesis is their rank out of all 50 in tax collections (ie how much they gave versus others):


Pennsylvania (#7 in federal tax collections) - $112,368,286,000
Georgia (#11 in federal tax collections) - $75,217,980,000
Massachusetts (# 12 in federal tax collections) - $74,782,325,000
Missouri (#18 in federal tax collections) - $48,568,138,000

Compare that with some of the states on the list with at least one sanctuary city:

Michigan (#13) - $69,923,907,000
Washington (#15) - $57,449,739,000
Maryland (#17) -$53,705,070,000
Colorado (#20) - $45,404,194,000
Arizona (#23) - $35,485,237,000
Oregon (#28) - $23,466,608,000
Utah (#36) - $15,063,650,000

As you can see Georgia, Massachusetts, and Pennsylvania all have higher tax collection rates than seven of the states on the list with sanctuary cities. With that in mind, I am not sure how your correlation of amount of tax paid and having a sanctuary city holds any weight.

Also, even the premise of the OP is a bit odd give that Atlanta, Philadelphia, Boston and Pittsburgh are not sanctuary cities and are all well known cities, and all four city centers are Democratic party strongholds.

I think there are far more complex matters at play as to whether a city will be a sanctuary city or not than this thread could consider.
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