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And yes I intetjected with LA because SF's have such a bloated sense of what San Francisco really is and I get so nauseous reading the boasting from San Franciscans. No it's NOT anywhere near a top tier WORLD CLASS city. Sorry.
Ironically or not (considering they're both at the top, ranking wise), there is more of a LA-NYC bond than there is LA-SF.
It seems more Los Angelenos would rather move alllll the way to NYC than to that "great" city of San Francisco to the north.
Number of Los Angelenos that moved to NYC 2008-2009: 4,021
Number of Los Angelenos that moved to SF 2008-2009: 1,847
Number of San Francisco residents that moved to LA 2009-2009: 2,070
SOI Tax Stats - Migration Data - California (http://www.irs.gov/taxstats/bustaxstats/article/0,,id=213845,00.html - broken link)
I moved from LA to SF and back. SF's a great city. I would most certainly rather live in SF or LA than NYC.
Oh there is also Snowboarding in the Poconos..that counts for NYC "area".
I've lived in NYC. SF is by far better for the outdoors person.
Bear Mountain and Long Island are as much part of NYC metro as Stanford, Berkeley, and Silicon Valley are of SF's. You said that surfing and mountain biking are not possible recreationally in NYC, and if you didn't say that or mean that then you most certainly implied it by the tone of your post. I disagreed, you can surf and mountain bike in the NYC area, the quality of the surf is nothing astonishing compared to the west but you can still do it if you have a desire to.
While Atlantic City isnt part of NYC's metro, NYC also has immediate access to one of the top gambling destinations in the continent. SF in comparison by drive time is very far from Reno or Las Vegas.
and yet, SF is not and will never be on LA's level.
This is getting a bit repetitive.
After having lived in the two, I feel as though SF stands on its own. It's not trying to be LA or NYC; it doesn't want to; and it does absolutely fine on its own. SF has enough going for it that it gets compared to cities/MSA's 5-10x its size and holds its own... it's obviously doing something - many things - right.
And yes I interjected with LA because SF's have such a bloated sense of what San Francisco really is and I get so nauseous reading the boasting from San Franciscans.
And yet you have provided ZERO evidence of how LA is better?
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No it's NOT anywhere near a top tier WORLD CLASS city. Sorry.
Take a trip into these 2 downtowns and we'll see whose World Class.
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and yet, SF is not and will never be on LA's level.
LA seems to have surpassed SF in population but nothing beyond that.
All of this is irrelevant in light of the huge number of amenities and activities that SF and LA offer that are unrelated to the beach.
It's like there's this attitude that unless a city is NYC, it's a small, boring hovel and any additional amenities that it has that aren't present in NYC are frivilous, don't matter, etc.
Heh. Someone (think we can all guess who) repped me for this post and said, "YOU FINALLY GET IT. FINALLY. hick"
After having lived in the two, I feel as though SF stands on its own. It's not trying to be LA or NYC; it doesn't want to; and it does absolutely fine on its own. SF has enough going for it that it gets compared to cities/MSA's 5-10x its size and holds its own... it's obviously doing something - many things - right.
LOL, got another passive-aggressive rep in response to the above statement:
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gets compared to those cities by its own residents......
No. Plenty of other people around the world and the US hold it near the same level as well. I know that's hard to accept, but, just because you don't like it doesn't mean that it isn't the truth.
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